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Re: Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune
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Regards, Peter |
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Re: Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune
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I found the same information on another site but the loss mentioned on these sites was over Borneo and the claim by a Javelin was over the Malacca Straits. Maybe it all started as rumors mixing information from these two incidents. Cheers, Peter |
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Re: Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune
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Very interesting to find my name in this site. You are correct Leendert `t was 17 may 1962 and Moekardanoe was the first pilot and I was his companion and second pilot on this remarkable trip. So I can say definitively that Leendert his search is true. There were no other RAF planes (Javelins) in this area - Dutch New Guinea. Regards Rein Lub Last edited by lub00055; 1st May 2010 at 09:29. |
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Re: Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune
Welcome Mr. Lub!
The subject itself is a pretty unique event in modern / post WW2 aviation history, but actually getting a response from one of the participants is amazing. Thank you for sharing.
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Re: Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune
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Regards, Peter Hasselgren |
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Re: Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune
Yes, indeed Peter, there was no intensive press publication worldwide during that time. I think no one was concerning the sale of a forgotten land.
The Dutch government was acting to “sell” the Dutch-Nieuw-Guinea country to the Indonesian government and even that - was a silent execution.... (the handover occurs via the United Nations) But after all, there were plenty publications worldwide about the infiltrations, accidents and movements. For the crews a nasty happening - because the newspapers arriving at least a week after publishing in this Papua country. And the watch of the pilot of the C47 became to me (war-booty) still running after 50 years and a long time in the seawater - I give it to the Naval-Airforce-Museum in Den Helder. http://www.traditiekamermld.nl/oorlogsbuit.htm (story in the Dutch languish) Regards Rein Lub |
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Re: Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune
An amazing story even if I missed some of it. Google translater is not perfect for translating from Dutch to Swedish. Did you fly photo-recce missions to Indonesia? Must have been extremely dangerous considering the fighters Indonesia had.
Regards Peter Hasselgren |
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Re: Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune
Hi guys
Of course, we are discussing two different incidents here. One is the downing of the C-47 in 1962, the other of the C-130 in 1964. But fascinating, as you say. Cheers Brian |
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Re: Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune
Hi, Peter, Brian & Leendert
Yes, we made a lot of foto rec`s mostly in the night - low on the deck- and after arr. a climb to take the pick`s- jets on and back to Biak. Transits mostly 4-5 hours, so the trips were approx 13- 14 hours. Of course we were concerning about the Mig`s but we had an enormous range and two extra jet engines to accelerate. Thereby we had spoilers to made sharp turns - but the crew don’t like this!! Sorry Peter, I have no time to translate the hole story - I`m retired you now. Regards- Rein Lub |
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Re: Indonesian Dakota shot down by Dutch Neptune
Hi Rob,
No need to translate you have already helped me with the part of the story I was unsure about. Since earlier I knew about the other operations your were involved in but had never heard about these photo rec´s. No doubt it takes courage to perform these missions. Enjoy life in retirement and once again thanks for the help. Regards, Peter |
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