Korean War Aircraft Loss Database

[Kutscha]

Also most MiG15 losses were flown by non Soviet pilots who were not as well trained as Soviet pilots.

Russian Aces over Korea

http://acepilots.com/russian/rus_aces.html

[mars]

Well, Chinese Air forces was largely a fledgling forces that was unable operate independently, and that was the reason they usually did not operate beyond the border area, so called "MIg Valley", though it was very much possible that Chinese and North Korean suffered higher losses rate per operations, the majority of Mig-15 encounter by Sabers were flew by Soviet pilots

[NickM]

Originally Posted by mars

It is a little complicate in the case of Sabers vs Mig-15, on the one hand Sabers were outnumbered by Mig-15s, but on the hand, since Soviet Mig-15s were not allowed to operate beyond the Chinese-Korean border region, so Sabers usually hold the initiative, they can choose where to hit and when to strike

Well not sure how much of an advantage that gave the Sabers if the Mig force could loiter over the border several thousand feet above the Sabers and the Sabers usually had the issue of fuel as well. Did either side/both sides have ground control radar?

[mars]

Originally Posted by NickM

Well not sure how much of an advantage that gave the Sabers if the Mig force could loiter over the border several thousand feet above the Sabers and the Sabers usually had the issue of fuel as well. Did either side/both sides have ground control radar?

What the chance hundreds of Mig-15 "loiter over the border several thousand feet" everyday whether Sabers come or not? More likely, there were only a few Mig-15s on alert, others would scramble up when their radar detect US aircrafts coming. So Sabers can choose when and where to fight, if they choose not to enter Mig Alley, then there would be no fight, when they choose to enter the Mig Alley, then they could choose the position they want to hit, Mig-15s had to defend the entire border regions and the Chinese army's supply routes across China-Korea border, if they won a dog fight with Mig-15s, they could pursuit across the Chinese border, if they loss, they only need to leave the Mig Alley area, and MIg-15 would not pursuit outside border region, and if the operational Sabers became low, they can simply stay in their base safely refit and recover without risking being attacked, hence they held the initiative.

[Juha]

Originally Posted by NickM

... Did either side/both sides have ground control radar?

IMHO both had, UN forces occupied some islands off the North Korean coast and had ships with radar stationed off the North Korean coast.

Juha

[edwest2]

Here's a bit on radar.


http://www.koreanwar.org/html/bookst...okstore_id=276





Usual disclaimer,
Ed

[edwest2]

A recent book:

The Last War of the Superfortresses: MiG-15 vs B-29 over Korea



https://www.amazon.com/Last-War-Supe...korean+war+mig










Usual disclaimer,
Ed

[Alex Smart]

Why can't I get this link to work ?
http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo/korea/reports/air/

[R Leonard]

Don't think DTIC does that anymore.

Try here for the pdf. Scroll down just a bit an hit the download button. Then the painful jump thru the download hoops, but the site will eventually cough it up. All 239 pages.

https://dokumen.tips/documents/korea...-military.html

[Alex Smart]

Many many thanks,
It has all that the old one had, except that there was a search facility where one could search by a/c type, date or name. This has all details but for instance if searching a B29 crew ,would have to search right through to find all crew names.
Anyway again my thanks
Alex