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Re: Me-262 losses the 21st February 1945.
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I've read that Dutch time and German time differed 01:40 back in 1940, I do not know where this dutch time stood relative to GMT, but you see that things may not be so straightforward afterall.
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Re: Me-262 losses the 21st February 1945.
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Re: Me 262 Losses on 21/02/45
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The September (I think) 1944 order creating the KG(J) units survives and has been published in a number of books. KG 51 was not one of the Geschwader listed to become a KG(J). All of those were withdrawn from operations, redesignated and retrained/re-equipped. By then, I./KG 51 was operating the Me 262 in the bomber role; II./KG 51 was soon to join them; and III./KG 51 was flying night bombing/attack missions with the Fw 190 F & G (it would be renamed NSG 20 in November 1944). |
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Re: Me-262 losses the 21st February 1945.
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Re: Me-262 losses the 21st February 1945.
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Re: Me-262 losses the 21st February 1945.
Rohde crashed at Schayk just north of Volkel Air Base.
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Re: Me-262 losses the 21st February 1945.
The fate of Ofhr. Gerhard Rohde, geb. 25.12.1914 Brunshaupten, was formally solved in August 2005. He crashed on 21.2.1945 near Schayk (north of Volkel airfield) in his Me 262A-2a, Werknummer 170199, 9K+??. he belonged to 1./KG 51. He was initally buried in a field grave and reburied at Ysselsteyn Cemetery Grave CI-12-300. He remained unknown until August 2005.
Driving force behind the identification was Adri Ekstijn. My role was to collect more evidence in documents and presenting it in the proper way to the WASt and VDK. Joe Potter found also some additional evidence. Basically the evidence consisted of; D.23816 Report of Burial Transfer RvO CI-12-300 dated 7.3.1950 D.23816 Reidentification effort CI-12-300 dated 17.4.1963 Police report dated 5.7.1945 concerning crash on 22.2.1945 RAF Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report No. 268 dated 30.3.1945. ORB 2809 Squadron RAF Regiment ORB 2834 Squadron RAF Regiment RL2-III-1197 Flugbücher I./KG 51 AIR2/8728 Burial Slip Ofw. Gerhard Rohde |
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Re: Me-262 losses the 21st February 1945.
Can WerkNr 170199 be correct? There´s a huge gap between WNr 170124 and 170270...
I have alternatives 170099 and 500099 while 500099 seems very questionable to me. Regards Roland Last edited by RolandF; 11th April 2015 at 21:39. |
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Re: Me-262 losses the 21st February 1945.
Not sure, seems unlikely......however, the only source (RL2-III-1197) says "0199".....
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Re: Me-262 losses the 21st February 1945.
What is AIR2/8728 Burial Slip Ofw. Gerhard Rohde?
According to Discovery this file is 'BOMBING (Code B, 16): Bombing probability problems: No. 25 Group method'. |
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