Ju88 crash OLt Gert Blume, near Isjum 1942

[egbert]

Updated location of crash site
1. Overview
2. Detail zoom
3. Extract from 1943 map

[edNorth]

"Heinkel Flzg.Werke Oranienburg in Oct-41"

info here is .... incorrect.

Ju 88 A-4 (088)5721 was ATG.

Pilot Rolf Baltabol tested lots of them in Ju 88´s in 50xx, 51xx, 52xx, 55xx, 56xx, 57, 58xx and 59xx series. He worked for ATG.

[Jim P.]

Sorry Ed. I will admit that I'm working from older sources for much of the construction info - my bad. I need to get a copy of Baltabol's FB!!

[edNorth]

You need correct them others ;-)
All this is old stuff. Only Medcalf turned down an offer to get it correct.
Getting Baltabol does not solve the problem.

I wonder if Medcalf really had any correct. He usually was (is) one or two months off for true Production dates (them dates one sees stamped on dataplates) because of use of delivery figures (and only some of them), and deliveries are not same as "production", it usually took 4 to 6 weeks to transport parts, assemble and test, and then deliver... And these delivery figures have all the clergical and categorical errors possible... and planes were not delivered in W.Nr. order (only roughly), some were delayed. I suspect some even exchanging W.Nr´s before delivery (because often there were hidden construction or line numbers behind these), it appears so because plates found suggest so, and some few failed delivery!

Ok. Here goes... "new decicion W.Nr.´s by JFM in Oct 1939"

088 0xxx JFM (A-1, A-5, A-6 etc. and conversions
(incl. C-1, C-2, C-3, C-4, C-5, C-7, D-2 but Ju 88 B V series was separate.)

088 1xxx JFM (A-4 and D-1, D-5)

088 2xxx Arado (A-1, A-5, A-6, A-4)

088 3xxx Henschel (A-1, A-5, A-6, A-4)

088 4xxx Nord Deutcher Dornier (A-1, A-5, A-4)

088 5xxx ATG (A-1, A-5, A-4)

088 6xxx Heinkel (A-1, A-5, A-4)

088 7xxx Dornier Sud (A-1 and A-5 only) - and no Ju 88 B series here, despite Medcalf list them such in his book.

088 8xxx Siebel (A-1, A-5, A-4)

egbert, could you maybe contact me per e-mail? anna.bidus@tvworking.pl I'd really like to speak with you about your relative!

[egbert]

Color photo of crashsite and graves

[egbert]

Originally Posted by egbert

Color photo of crashsite and graves

[egbert]

How history repeats in the sunflower fields near Isjum - exactly 80 years later:



or

[egbert]

The sunflower fields near Isjum are huge. This crashed SU-35 was downed near Isjum 300m next to a road like the Ju 88 of Gerd Blume. Same region, same geography, almost same time of the year but 80 years later. For me: intriguing.

[egbert]

To the mod team:
where have all my pictures and map images gone that were inserted in my posts here please??????