Photo Fokker D.VII

[Buckeye30]

Clint. Photo 2BS..the broom was Hans Besser's marking ( Jasta 12 white nose) on 2 of his Fokkers (Besen = broom).
Photo 1~a....this must be 6666/18 (Alb) with diamond tail in US hands. Another photo shows the full serial.


Adolf Auer flew another DVII with a star, but with black fuselage and white tail, ex-Rosenstein.



Nick

[musec04]

Hello Nick,


Thanks for the additional info which drove me to my copies of Ray Rimmel's Fokker Anthology. In volume 3 P.5 there is a post war photo of D.VII D.6666/18 (unless it is 6686 the picture is not completely clear and my eyesight is not 100%). This is not Hans Besser's machine a photo of which (assuming that it is the same machine, and not just one with identical markings) appears in Vol.1 P.48 where it is described as OAW built.Some photos appear of Auer's other D.VII with a Davidstern which Ray Rimmel says was recorded as 4043/18, but wrongly! Its british markings being G/2/27.


Can anyone definitively provide the serials for either of Auer's Davidstern marked machine's or Hans Besser's machine with the Besen?


Regards,


Clint

[Buckeye30]

Hi Clint. the clear shot of 6666/18 is on p.11 of Ray's D.VII Datafile no.9.

There were 2 D.VIIs in Js12 with slightly different broom insignia and white nose areas different, but both probably Bessen's ?

The star D.VII in your photo seems to be in British hands but not the one Auer was shot down in, which had Js40 colours plus narrow tail stripes and was photographed with Soden who shot him down. At least that's how I see it; can't help with serials I'm afraid. I wonder if the one with a star on white band was Auer's ?
There are a couple more photos of it anyway ( don't help though!).

Nick


https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/...-german-cross/

[musec04]

Hi Nick,


Thanks. My fault I didn't read your post properly. I thought you said that 6666/18 was the Besen machine. Reading it again you clearly didn't. Also it shows that I must have owned the Fokker Anthology before WDF 9, which as you say has a clear photo.Alas, the records I have in my excel doc are based on the first photo I see of an aircraft. Still all clear now hopefully.



The Fokker Anthology has photos of Auer's machine with the blue (?) striped tail. I had thought both of the Davidstern machines were flown by Auer.Now I'm less certain. I believe all the photos in the links I provided are captured machines,so unless he had more than one machine at the same time, not impossible I suppose, it suggests that the one in link on this site is not Auer's machine(?) Also one machine appears to have been captured by the RAF's 41 Squadron and the other by a USA unit


Regards,


Clint

[Buckeye30]

Hi Clint. Thought you might like this little film (if you havn't).... a real variety of DVIIs; I recognised one or two. If only it was in COLOUR !!

At 02.20 mins. there's another one with a 6-point star.

All for now

Nick


https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/i...ect/1060022847

[musec04]

Hello Nick,


Thanks very much for posting this interesting link. I've looked through it once and its really great to watch 'live' Fokker D.VIIs.I shall be watching it again while pausing to see if I can pickout any serial numbers, though that looks like a challenge...


Still, I was listening to Leeds at Swansea while watching the video and Pablo Hernandez and yourself have both added,in your different ways, to the quality of my Sunday afternoon.


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Fokker D.VII F D.7788/18in American hands at Koblenz airfield following the war:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-WW...wAAOSw17ZfNvjB


Does anyone know which unit operated this machine prior to the armistice?


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Fokker D.VII with an interesting marking at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-deut-Fl...EAAOSw0p9fbMk~


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Also this evening on ebay is a photo of two Fokker D.VII at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW1-CAPTURE...8AAOSwZu9fawoh


Regards,


Clint

[Buckeye30]

Clint. Another shot of 7788 apparently with the 85th Aero (DH-4s) though there is an SE5a in the hangar, maybe 25th. No markings on the DVII unfortunately.



https://www.scalemodellingnow.com/hn...er-dvii-f-1-32


Nick