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Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
Hallo!
I got information that WNr 131581-131640(?) was a Ju 87 D-5 block. Does anyone know when they were delivered to Luftwaffe? This would bracket the Finnish Stkz data. Q9+CH (WNr 131587) would be ??+G? or ??+?G in the unknown Stkz block then??? Cheers, Kari Last edited by Kari Lumppio; 15th December 2023 at 15:55. |
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Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
Hi Kari
The W/Nr 131587 I have as Stkz KJ+XO. From where does the part Stkz you proposed? |
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Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
Hi Tom,
Where did you establish that as its very interesting. Do you have any paperwork? I was a bit confused as Mickael had the following KJ+XA - 131433 as a D-3. Also KJ+XO is not within Kari's list which is where I would expect to see it. regards, Mark |
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Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
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I thought it might have been a replacement but not in your list. Would have been post October 1943 as no evidence of L1, only the small Q9. On 18.10.43 I./St.G.5 was redesignated I./SG5: Stab I./St.G.5 became Stab I./SG5 1./St.G.5 became 1./SG5 2./St.G.5 became 2./SG5 3./St.G.5 became 3./SG5 Trouble is this was already a Stuka unit just redesignated so I can't understand why the Stkz I believe this Ju87 had is not on the list. (even looking at other possible pronunciation errors.) regards, Mark |
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Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
Hi!
Does the Q9+CH have individual letter below and above the wing? IIRC there are photo or two of SG 5 Ju 87 with letter above wing in 1944, too. Northern Ju 87 have had letters above wing during the LG 1 period already. Cheers, Kari |
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Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
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The G is just deduction assuming 131581 being ??+A? or ??+?A. Cheers, Kari |
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Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
Ju87D-3 - KJ+XA to XH - 131433 to 131440
Ju87D-5 - KJ+XI to XZ - 131581 to 131598 Note: Source Fb.Kagen for KJ+XX marked as W/Nr 151596 - March 1944. |
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Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
Tom,
Thats great. I can confirm that's the Stkz of Ju87 D-5 131587 from the close up photos I've seen of the fuselage. regards, Mark |
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Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
Sorry Both Stkz blocks are Type D-5
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Re: Ju87 D-5 recovered
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Early 1944 I./SG 5 was supporting H.Gr. Nord in Ilmensee area (near Novgorod) and started to transfer to Finland and Pontsalenjoki only late March 1944 (first Ju 87 D-5s 17.3.1944 at Kemijärvi). See for example: https://www.ww2.dk/air/attack/sg5.htm If Q9+CH WNr 131587 was replacement Dec 1943 - Mar 1944 it came to Finland wearing Vkz, not Stkz. I think that is the reason for not appearing in the list. Cheers, Kari |
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