Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum  

Go Back   Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum > Discussion > Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces

Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces Please use this forum to discuss the German Luftwaffe and the Air Forces of its Allies.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 5th August 2014, 01:12
edNorth edNorth is offline
Alter Hase
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 2,126
edNorth is on a distinguished road
Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66

Merlin, I do know, not first time here today :-)

But what is your (corrected) source for D-INUT if not this logbook?

I was merely informing of that A 48 D- NUT 3362 has written logboook source and what it was. Besides its now well over 40 years since I stated my researche´s into aviation history in general and have come across quite a few "exceptions" and "mistakes" and "surprises" and such.

I recommmend put in "safety" clause, as never say never, when it comes to anything RLM or Luftwaffe business. Or even USAAF for that matter. Latest surprise I saw was a twin engined B-17G (outer engines and nacelles removed and faired). Ok, I knew of a twin Halifax (taxi trainer).

Ed
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 5th August 2014, 12:00
eknutson eknutson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 192
eknutson is on a distinguished road
Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66

Summary so far:

Ar66C WNr.0767 D-INUI.

Fliegerübungsstelle Schönwalde 08.35 - 12.36
Fliegerschule Halberstadt 06.38 - 09.38
Erg.Btl. 31 at Brandis 09.39
Verbindungsstaffel 58 30% damage at Biala Podlaska on 29.06.41

Ar66C WNr. 0410 ND + NX.

Ar66C - WNr.0410 - D-???? - manufactured November 1934, Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH [source: Flugzeug Übernahme 1934-1936]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - D-???? - ND+NX - Sch./FAR10 - Neukuhren, Germany - Stkz assigned November 1939 [sources: Barry Rosch; Luftarchiv-Stkz]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - Sch./FAR10 - Neukuhren, Germany - June 1940 [source: Eric Guillaume]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - Sch./FAR10 - Neukuhren, Germany - September 1940 [source: Luftarchiv-Stkz]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - FFS(A/B)125 - Neukuhren, Germany on 27-Jan-41. Flight entry in Flugbuch. [source: Fb.Röwert; photo]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - FFS(A/B)125 - Neukuhren, Germany on 20-Jul-41. Flight entry in Flugbuch [source: Fb.Kübler; photo]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - FFS(A/B)125 Neukuhren, Germany - October 1941 [source: Luftarchiv-Stkz]
Ar66C - WNr.0410 - ND+NX - FFS(A/B)3 - Guben, Germany - February 1943 [source: Luftarchiv-Stkz]


Ar66C WNr. 0551 D-IKYH.

Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH - manufactured May 1935, Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH, Warnemünde, Germany [sources: Flugzeug Übernahme 1934-1936; Tom Willis; Jörg Meincke; LEMB]
Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH Fliegerschule Böblingen 06/36. [sources: Rasmussen forum.12oclockhigh]



Ar66C WNr. 2127.

Ar66C - WNr.2127 - manufactured 1936, AGO Flugzeugwerke GmbH, Oschersleben, Germany [source: Tom Willis]
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 6th August 2014, 11:25
Merlin Merlin is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 647
Merlin will become famous soon enoughMerlin will become famous soon enough
Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66

Post #10: The photo is not my property, therefore I can not post it. The number is clearly redable and not hidden by any strut.


Post #11: My entries for D-INUT are from the Flugbuch Baltabol and the monthly accident summary for June 1935 which lists the A 48 D-INUT as a 100% crash with Fliegergruppe (S) Schleißheim.


Post 12: some additional data for these Ar 66 aircraft

Ar66C WNr.0767 D-INUI
Under repair at Basser company Berlin 03.42

Ar66C WNr.0410 D-IPES
Used by DLV Hamburg from 12.34 until 04.36 and later Fliegerübungsstelle Hamburg during summer 1937

The correlation to registration ND+NX is wrong - see post #10.
The flights listed in your table did belong to ND+NX.

Ar66C WNr. 0551 D-IKYH
Fliegerschule Böblingen 05.35 to 08.37, school moved to Nellingen 09.37
Fliegerschule Nellingen 09.37 to 02.39
__________________
Best regards
Gerhard Stemmer
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 6th August 2014, 13:52
Tom Willis Tom Willis is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 407
Tom Willis is on a distinguished road
Smile Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66

Hi Merlin

Thanks for your detailed reply

My notes on ND+NX have the same details but does not not refer to any W/Nr.

If it is any help the PJ+A? for the Ar66C only relates from PJ+AA to PJ+AK

Regards
Tom
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 6th August 2014, 14:06
eknutson eknutson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 192
eknutson is on a distinguished road
Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66

Tanks for this useful update Merlin. can you send a scan of the foto to me on mail eknutso@broadpark.no

Regards
Ernst
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 7th August 2014, 17:02
Norbert Schuchbauer's Avatar
Norbert Schuchbauer Norbert Schuchbauer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Orangevale, California
Posts: 687
Norbert Schuchbauer
Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66

Hi Merlin,
thank you for the clarification on the Werknummer of ND+NX.

Regards,
Norbert
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 11th August 2014, 23:42
eknutson eknutson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 192
eknutson is on a distinguished road
Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66

New summary:

And we found another new WNr. 2170 anything on this ?

Ar66C WNr.0767 D-INUI.

Fliegerübungsstelle Schönwalde 08.35 - 12.36 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]
Fliegerschule Halberstadt 06.38 - 09.38 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]
Erg.Btl. 31 at Brandis 09.39 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]
Verbindungsstaffel 58 30% damage at Biala Podlaska on 29.06.41 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]
Under repair at Basser company Berlin 03.42 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]

27.11.44 is 3./N.S.Gr.8 on Bardufoss.

Ended up at Bardufoss as wrecks from Nachtschlacht Gruppe 8
There exists a foto taken at bardufoss showing airframes with codes
6J+VL and 6J+QL, if our is one of this we dont know.

We have 2 data plates for this airfarme
One from Arado Flugzeug Werke (1935), the other from G. Basser K.G. Zwickau Sa.(Mars 42). The last one is proably from a repair. Both have Werk Nr : 767.


Ar66C WNr. 0410 D-IPES PJ+A?

Used by DLV Hamburg from 12.34 until 04.36 and later Fliegerübungsstelle Hamburg during summer 1937 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]

Ar66C - WNr.0410 - D-IPES manufactured November 1934, Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH [source: Flugzeug Übernahme 1934-1936]


Ar66C WNr. 0551 D-IKYH.

Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH - manufactured May 1935, Arado Flugzeugwerke GmbH, Warnemünde, Germany [sources: Flugzeug Übernahme 1934-1936; [Tom Willis; Jörg Meincke; LEMB]
Ar66C - WNr.0551 - D-IKYH Fliegerschule Böblingen 06/36. [sources: Rasmussen forum.12oclockhigh]
Fliegerschule Böblingen 05.35 to 08.37, school moved to Nellingen 09.37 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]
Fliegerschule Nellingen 09.37 to 02.39 [sources: Merlin forum.12oclockhigh]


Ar66c WNr. 2170



Ar66C WNr. 2127.

Ar66C - WNr.2127 - manufactured 1936, AGO Flugzeugwerke GmbH,
Oschersleben, Germany [source: Tom Willis]

Is it possible to get a scan of the 0410 picture as a refrence to our museum ?.

Tanks in advance
Ernst
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12th August 2014, 11:48
Eric GUILLAUME Eric GUILLAUME is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: France
Posts: 102
Eric GUILLAUME
Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66

Hello,

I have a (poor) photo showing Wnr. 410 from FFS(A/B) 14, with a partially legible Stkz : RO+A?
Regards.
Eric
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12th August 2014, 17:34
eknutson eknutson is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 192
eknutson is on a distinguished road
Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66

So some of this is not a Ar66 but somthing else then. Is it possible to see the 2 fotos of WrkNr 0410 then? or maybe 1410 ?
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 13th August 2014, 00:49
Eric GUILLAUME Eric GUILLAUME is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: France
Posts: 102
Eric GUILLAUME
Re: Any Flugbuch entries for Ar66

Hello,

I have just sent you a scan from the photo I have.
Regards.

Eric
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Flugbuch Wilhelm Nickisch Hans Mcilveen Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 0 26th December 2013 19:52
Meaning of the "D II-Flug", "N1/2-Flug" and "Ze-Bo" Flugbuch entries Recceswind Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 7 20th May 2013 21:19
3./KG40 Flugbuch . schnellmeyer Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 15 10th July 2012 03:19
Looking for Flugbuch Walter Miksche (JG 3, JG 2, EJG 2) Recceswind Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 0 9th December 2011 15:01
Georg Merl 8/KG27 flugbuch. steve sheridan Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces 1 4th March 2011 23:15


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 13:50.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004 - 2018, 12oclockhigh.net