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Old 21st September 2007, 02:03
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Speaking of colors, many of us certainly recall the fantasious color description of Bf 109 and Fw190 camouflages (including the mythical "all yellow 190"...) in the otherwise wonderful "The Big Show" by Pierre Clostermann.
Yes I remember. Green and ocre they were, with yellow bellies!
I have my own little theory for that one. When you look at a blue sky for a long time, everything else tends to get yellow. Add yellow to two tones of grey (RLM 74/75) and you might actually see something that's green with ocre and a yellow belly.

Here's a nice related optical illusion: http://www.echalk.co.uk/amusements/O...erception.html (choose Colour Perception)
Notice how "RLM 74" goes all ocre on your eyes when surrounded by "sky"!
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Old 21st September 2007, 05:39
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Re: All-black captured Mustang?

Pretty interesting optical illusions - the spinning spiral and back-of-the-hand is a weird one !
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Re: All-black captured Mustang?

Skyraider,
With regard to your question several posts back, about the June 9, 1945 entry for a damaged Me-109 for Robert Wiggins, this is indeed a typo, and it should be 1944.

I would also note elsewhere on that page, that at the top they show Lee Archer with 5 victories, and at the bottom with 4.5. His correct score is 4; the entry at the top for July 20, 1944 is incorrect. His Form 5 does not show a flight on this date, nor does the mission report for this date list a victory. The error comes from Francis' history of the Tuskeegee airmen, who misread a very unofficial list.

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Yes I remember. Green and ocre they were, with yellow bellies!
I have my own little theory for that one. When you look at a blue sky for a long time, everything else tends to get yellow. Add yellow to two tones of grey (RLM 74/75) and you might actually see something that's green with ocre and a yellow belly.

Here's a nice related optical illusion: http://www.echalk.co.uk/amusements/O...erception.html (choose Colour Perception)
Notice how "RLM 74" goes all ocre on your eyes when surrounded by "sky"!
I knew it must have been some form of optical illusion, but did not know that explanation is so simple!
If you could only expand it in a more scientific way, with some more samples of such illusions...
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Interesting- long time ago I have find info about captured Yugoslav airplane also painted black by Germans.
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Interesting- long time ago I have find info about captured Yugoslav airplane also painted black by Germans.
spot on they were for parisans missions there.
also some macchi 205s were used too.
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spot on they were for partisans missions there.
also some macchi 205s were used too.
Sorry to contradict you, but the Croats only had a few Macchi C.202s in 1944, with a rather dark italian top camouflage of the type applied by Breda factory (they belonged to "serie XII").

No Macchi C.205 ever operated in Yugoslavia (apart from those of ANR's 1° Gruppo Caccia who flew over Istrian peninsula on a few high-altitude interceptions...)
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Sorry to contradict you, but the Croats only had a few Macchi C.202s in 1944, with a rather dark italian top camouflage of the type applied by Breda factory (they belonged to "serie XII").

No Macchi C.205 ever operated in Yugoslavia (apart from those of ANR's 1° Gruppo Caccia who flew over Istrian peninsula on a few high-altitude interceptions...)
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Old 22nd September 2007, 14:00
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on the black mustang erm might be a captured yak.
as ive read in many books too many"" some Italian planes were seen over berlin re 2000--- re 2005. and some all black painted me 109s .
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Re: All-black captured Mustang?

As in my Previous Post-
My Father and Kelly Gross both are 100% Positive the " Black "
Fighter they encountered was a P - 51.
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