Lt. Gen. Werner Christie R.No.A.F.

[vingtor]

Thanks Stein, this really helps. I think I will try making a profile drawing.

Regarding the red spinner, do you have any ideas whether that would be bright red or dull red (i.e. brown) as on the roundels?

Yellow leading edges on the wings sounds strange on a bare metal aircraft, but it might be correct though.

Nils

[Stein Meum]

The colour would be bright red.
The yellow leading edges were prescribed for all fighter a/c of the RAF,whether camouflaged or not.They are fairly difficult to see on nat.met. a/c and black/white photos.

Stein

P.S. For some reason I'm not receiving notification via e-mail of replies to this topic any more.Your first replies to this topic,Nils,were notified normally,though.

[Franek Grabowski]

Stein

The Mk. III was camouflaged,the scheme being fairly consistent with published instructions.Basically U.S. DuPont shades of British colours.In some cases the U.S. Gray was repainted with British Ocean Grey.White I.D. stripes on fin and tailplanes.The white was also applied on the nose and spinners but usually overpainted.

Extremally few Mk III retained their original US colours. Generally they were overpainted with British paints and it is not possible at the moment to link pattern to serial.
White stripes on fin appeared only for a short period of time in early 1944. I cannot coment on further evolution of recognition markings.
Also spinners are the subject for a lenghty discussion.

Concerning WHC aircraft, I am afraid that nobody would recall such detail like placing of individual codes, nonetheless I do not know any of 316 Sqn pilots of the period anyway. Polish Squadrons are among best photographed, so I will have a closer look if WHC appears there but I am afraid there is only a photo of Christie himself.

By the way, you may check ORBs of 150 Wing Squadrons as they may have recorded a serial for his aircraft.

Best wishes

[Hendrik]

Stein,

Thank you for sharing this sad news.

On the subject of Norwegian Wing Commanders I know that Rolf Arne Berg was one of them. Other names that come to my mind are Helge Mehre and Jon Ryg but I am not sure of these last two. These three flew with No.132 (Norwegian) Wing.

Kind regards,
Hendrik

[Kjetil Aakra]

Hello all.

Sorry to interupt this very interesting discussion, but could you please comment on this rendering of Mustang IVa, WHC, which is based on the description given in this thread? If possible, I'd like to release it as a skin for the flight simulator Il-2 Forgotten battles to commemorate Christie.









Sincerely,

Kjetil Aakra

[vingtor]

From my general knowledge of RAF markings I can say that the 24" x 24" fin marking is missing. Furthermore the Wingco pennant looks a bit too large.

You have reproduced the olive drab anti-glare area different from standard, check your references

Otherwise a cice looking aircraft.

Nils

[Stein Meum]

Originally Posted by Kjetil Aakra

Hello all.

Sorry to interupt this very interesting discussion, but could you please comment on this rendering of Mustang IVa, WHC, which is based on the description given in this thread? If possible, I'd like to release it as a skin for the flight simulator Il-2 Forgotten battles to commemorate Christie.





VERY CLOSE,Kjetil! But I think the code letters are a bit too large.The Wingco pennant is definitely too large,I'm afraid.Further,the tail fin flash is missing,as are the yellow leading edges.They should start from just outboard of the outer wing guns.

Stein





Sincerely,

Kjetil Aakra

[Stein Meum]

Having read Nils' reply since posting,I also think there's something wrong with the Anti-glare panel shape.

Stein

[Stein Meum]

Originally Posted by Hendrik

Stein,

Thank you for sharing this sad news.

On the subject of Norwegian Wing Commanders I know that Rolf Arne Berg was one of them. Other names that come to my mind are Helge Mehre and Jon Ryg but I am not sure of these last two. These three flew with No.132 (Norwegian) Wing.

Kind regards,
Hendrik

Yes,there were several other Norwegian Wing Commanders but they,including Danish Kai Birksted,commanded the "Norwegian" Spit squadrons.The Norwegian squadrons are outside the scope of my researches which concentrate on the operational carreers of Norwegian aircrew serving in other RAF squadrons than the "Norwegian" ones,i.e. 330,331,332 and 333 Sqns.
The names you mentioned are all correct,but for 331 and 332 Sqns only.

Stein

[Kjetil Aakra]

Thanks for your input, guys.

I'll modify the skin according to your suggestions.

Kjetil