VVS Top pilots: some tables from M.Bykov's book

[Leo Etgen]

Hi guys

Congratulations to Eugen for his efforts. Concerning the combat of 5 July 1943 it appears that there are no losses listed for III./JG 51 that day. The losses that I have for JG 51 are:

Fw 190 A-5 "White 5" (W.Nr. 0157 248) flown by Feldwebel Josef Jennewein of 1./JG 51 damaged by Flak over Sloboda 20%
Fw 190 A-5 (W.Nr. 0157 210) of 2./JG 51 damaged by groundfire over Sloboda 30%
Fw 190 A-4 (W.Nr. 0147 124) of 2./JG 51 suffered technical damage at PQ 63 371 15%

I hope that you guys find this interesting. Many thanks for the details on the aerial combat.

Horrido!

Leo

[Ota Jirovec]

Hello Leo,

Actually, there were several losses reported by III./JG 51 on 5 July 1943. The excellent site of Pawel Burchard provides the following losses of III. Gruppe on this date:

5/7/1943 Fw 190A-5 W.Nr. 7353 7./J.G. 51
Feindbeschuss Slowitzki 80% F
5/7/1943 Fw 190A-5 W.Nr. 7284 8./J.G. 51
Feindbeschuss, Pl.Qu. 63359 15% F
5/7/1943 Fw 190A-5 W.Nr. 7282 8./J.G. 51
Bracke, Fw. Walter -- verwundet
Feindbeschuss, Pl.Qu. 63322 100% F
5/7/1943 Fw 190A-4 W.Nr. 2426 (braun 7) 9./J.G. 51 -- G.Aders says 3./J.G. 51 (braun)
Schmitz, Uffz. Hermann -- vermisst
Luftkampf. N Maloarchangelsk 100% F

As this was a very hectic day, I would be very careful in drawing any conclusions on who could have shot down who.

Hope this helps a little,

Ota

[Leo Etgen]

Hello Ota

Many thanks for the additional III./JG 51 losses. Like you, I wonder how Gorbach concluded that Strassl was the one who shot down Kapitan Vladimir Zalevskiy. Are there any additional details that could prove this was the case?

Horrido!

Leo

[Nokose]

Michal, Thanks for the reply. There seems to be some websites with Kozachenko being shot down by fighters and making a ramming for his 16th victory before going to his death. They also have him in listed in a Yak-9D or Airacobra. One even suriving and doing service in the Middle East.

[strafer]

Dear all, is there any info on Soviet fighters' ground kills???
Regards, Filip

[Evgeny Velichko]

Wow!!!!

So much answers in tyhis thread

Today at least I bought a new PC And have a lot to do...

Just a little answer: Last air combat of Kap. Zalevskiy was over Maloarkhangelsk area, there he was lost.

First claims of III./JG 51 at that day:
05.07.43 Fw. Hubert Strassl 8./JG 51 MiG-3 ( 63 651 at 1.500 m. 03.48 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 340
05.07.43 Fw. Hubert Strassl 8./JG 51 MiG-3 ( 63 631 at 2.500 m. 03.50 Film C. 2032/II Anerk: Nr. 341

Losses:
1 lost over Malo, 2 x damaged in 63 (and around) grid. So... COULD BE

[Nokose]

Could some one provide the claims and info on Vitaly I. Klimenko who started the war on 22Jun41 with the 10 IAP. I read his story in "Barbarossa & The Retreat to Moscow" by Artem Drabkin which was in interview form.

[Evgeny Velichko]

Vitaliy Klimenko
Ltn.
1920

10 iap - june - november 1941 - I-16, MiG-3
1 giap - nov. 1941 - sept. 1943 - Hurricane, Yak-7, Yak-1

Claimlist:
02.08.42 - 1 Ju88 - Rzhev area
05.08.42 - 1 Ju88 - Rzhev area
06.08.42 - 1 Ju88 - Rzhev area
23.01.43 - 1 Fw190 - N Sinyavino
23.01.43 - 1/shared Fw190 - Sinyavino
11.02.43 - 1 Hs126 - Peljgora
19.02.43 - 1 Fw190 - N Pogostje
19.01.43 - 2/shared Fw190 - Sinyavino
24.02.43 - 1 Fw190 - N Sinyavino
05.07.43 - 2 Fw190 - Zhizdra area
19.07.43 - 1 Fw190 - Gorodok
27.07.43 - Ju88 - Krasnikovo
31.07.43 - Ju87 - Dudorovka
02.08.43 - 1 Fw190 - Umrikhino
15.08.43 - 3/shared Fw190 - Khotynetz area
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Total victories: 13+6
Combat missions: 335
Aircombats: 42

Awards: 2 x Order of Red Banner, Order of Patriothic War I class, Medals.

[Evgeny Velichko]

Originally Posted by Fairlop

Hi Eugen,

Very interesting. Are you preparing some web with these list ?

Regards,
Michal

No, but I will be pleased if this info will be used somebody on any webpages