Where is Prichon air field base of II/skg 210 10 August 1941 ?

[oquaig]

Originally Posted by oquaig

Hello again,

...As for Boyari (Bojary, Boyary) air field, yes I am aware the are 20 plus Bojary's in Belarus and I am not so sure of my choice of locations, but sometimes throwing out suggestions like this brings a lot of interesting feed back. As an educated guess I pick the stated location because it is west of Minsk, assuming that II/SKG210 was moving forward behind Panzer Group 2. Bojary is very close to Priyamino (Приямино) where the 169th FAR was based the last week of June 1941. Other Luftwaffe units were based at Dokudovo and just by coincidence there is a Dokudovo a few km to the NE, but again there is more than one Dokudovo in Belarus.

Thanks again
Oquaig

An interesting picture of Priyamino, Dokudovo and could it be...Bojary airfield ?

tell me what you think
Oquaig

[Larry deZeng]

The following is from the Luftwaffe's 1941-44 perspective only. It appears that they were two separate airfields but quite close together.

Bojary (RUSS) (e. Boyari; today Boyary) (54 16 N – 28 49 E)
General: landing ground in Belorussia (today Belarus) 92 km NE of Minsk, 13 km E of Borisov (Barysaw) and just north of the railway line. Very little use, if any, from Sep 41 to Mar 44.
Dokudowo (RUSS) (e. Dokudovo) (54 20 N – 28 53 E)
General: landing ground in Belorussia (today Belarus) 100 km ENE of Minsk and 27 km ENE Borisov. Rated for bombers.

L.

[Evgeny Velichko]

1. Naryshkino - I dont know, but I'll check.

2. Bojary - yes, loca. You listed is 90% for sure correct.

3. I am not the only author. We are two - me and Andre Stewart. Book will be in english, and will come (I hope) after 2-3 years.

P.S. What is Your interest in SKG210?

P.P.S.

From the report of Stab of Bryansk Front Aviation Commander on dec. 1941:


In November and especially in December the german Air Forces have sharply lowered the activity and only at the beginning of deviation of the opponent from under Tula at the front has appeared to 25 planes ME-110 which actively cover a withdrawal of the armies.
...
From the beginning of December on Bryansk front МЕ-110 are marked mainly. Apparently, plane ME-110 is the best aircraft for flights in cold weather.
...
From 1.12.41 on a Bryansk site planes ME-110 which are based on airdrome of the item of Naryshkino are noted basically.

[John Vasco]

Originally Posted by Evgeny Velichko

3. I am not the only author. We are two - me and Andre Stewart. Book will be in english, and will come (I hope) after 2-3 years.

Evgeny,
You've got to get over here and get into my research material at the Archive at some time in the future. I'll take you through it all.

John V.

[oquaig]

What I am attempting to do here is track all the Luftwaffe groups that participated in the 1941 campaign. I started with STG 2 because I had the least information on it. Since both STG 2 and II SKG 210 went north with VIII Fliegerkorps tracking this unit might shed some light on the where STG 2 went (which I now believe was in Soltsy along with II LG 2). Next I will work on the movements of I SKG 210 and since I’m working on Bf 110s I’ll do I, II ZG 76 after that. My main focus is on the groups flying with II and VIII Fliegerkorps and this will become a series of maps identifying air fields for both Luftwaffe and VVS aviation units. This is a project within a project. The real project is to identify and track all the VVS aviation regiments in the 1941 campaign. So far work on the VVS has proven more easy.



Oquaig

[Evgeny Velichko]

John - thanks for this kind help.

I am not sure, if I will be able to get to England this year...

But could visit You, I hope, instead of me

[Evgeny Velichko]

oquaig:

Actually, original (russian) names of that airfields are:

Malitino - Veretje (Веретье)
Prikhon - Medved (Медведь)

There are some photos of that airfields with crippled VVS aircrafts on it.

[oquaig]

So if Stab.III./StG 1 was at Dokudovo between 5 to 17 July, and II./SKG 210 is at "Boyary" (54 16 N – 28 49 E matches the location for Priyamino - marked "C" on the photo) between 10 to 15 July, I am guessing that the Priyamino (marked "D" on the photo) is where III. and IV./JG 51 were based between 9 to 12 July. Sounds like a busy place. Most likely this is the same Boyary that Stab.I.II./KG 55 flew its missions to Moscow from.

[Larry deZeng]

Originally Posted by oquaig

So if Stab.III./StG 1 was at Dokudovo between 5 to 17 July, and II./SKG 210 is at "Boyary" (54 16 N – 28 49 E matches the location for Priyamino - marked "C" on the photo) between 10 to 15 July, I am guessing that the Priyamino (marked "D" on the photo) is where III. and IV./JG 51 were based between 9 to 12 July. Sounds like a busy place. Most likely this is the same Boyary that Stab.I.II./KG 55 flew its missions to Moscow from.

There is no listing for a "Prijamino" or "Priyamino" is the German material on UdSSR Flugplätze. The common practice was to name the airfield after the nearest town or village. If it was close to two towns or villages, both names were sometimes used, one officially and the other unofficially. I could also be that "Priyamino" was an undeveloped satellite or auxiliary strip that belonged to either Dokudovo or Boyary.

L.

[oquaig]

Originally Posted by Larry deZeng

...The common practice was to name the airfield after the nearest town or village. If it was close to two towns or villages, both names were sometimes used, one officially and the other unofficially...
L.

Frankly I have suspected for some time that airfields the Luftwaffe units occupied took their names from the place they were quartered in.