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Old 5th September 2011, 19:05
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Re: Luftwaffe losses, Kiev, 6.11.1943, asking for help.
Gents, is this loss report is correct?

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Ju 87D-3, 110486, 8./St.G. 3, MIA with crew on 6.11.43 due to Flak. Pl.Qu 01 582
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Old 5th September 2011, 21:47
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I think, that it is not correct. Quite possible, that this is it, whose location in NVM is also Pl.Qu 01582:
1943-11-06, 9./Schl.G 77, Ju 87D-3, 110872, S2+KT, 3 km nördlich Maljutjanka. Notlandung infolge Flakbeschuß. Bruch 100 %.
F Lt Saul, Werner, vermißt
Bf Uffz Richter, Dieter, vermißt
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1943-09-06, 8./St.G 3, Ju 87D-3, 110486, Fl.Pl. Smolensk-Nord, Bruchlandung. Bruch 40 %.
Maybe this was still under repair in November?

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Old 6th September 2011, 11:47
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Hi.

Here is that last record as it is in the GenQu list - I just checked it for any typos in the database:

http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=104861

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Old 6th September 2011, 14:32
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Ok, gentlmen, thank You very much.

And last question - were there any Fw190 losses? Aksing about II./JG54 and II./SG2 mainly...
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were there any Fw190 losses?
Why do you ask? Did Rudorffer claim LaGG-5's ?
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Hi.

Was there sucha a thing as a LaGG-5? I thought the designation was La-5, a development of the older LaGG-3 design?

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Was there sucha a thing as a LaGG-5? I thought the designation was La-5, a development of the older LaGG-3 design?

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LaGG-5 is a mistake that is often found in german records.
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LaGG-5 is a mistake that is often found as a claim in german records.
As well as LaGG-7, LaGG, Il-5, Il-7, MiG-1 and many others.
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None in my database.

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Old 6th September 2011, 21:28
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I cannot find any either.

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