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Old 24th March 2012, 23:11
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Re: Loss of 6 Ju 87 19.april 1940 Norway /S.tg.1

helloJohn Frederik,
i heard even a story that on the botom of jonsvanet there must still be a stuka laying, they used the lake as landing ground but when it started to defrost some sank to deep in the ice away and all the things that could be removed were removed
anyone can confirm this?
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Old 25th March 2012, 00:02
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Re: Loss of 6 Ju 87 19.april 1940 Norway /S.tg.1

[quote=philippe1;145077]helloJohn Frederik,
i heard even a story that on the botom of jonsvanet there must still be a stuka laying, they used the lake as landing ground but when it started to defrost some sank to deep in the ice away and all the things that could be removed were removed
anyone can confirm this?
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Hi!

What's still on the bottom of Jonsvatnet is still a mystery....would be happy to know though..

There are many rumours..

On is that what is told is a Arado went down on the ice some other year,stright to the ice with the crew.It is told to be a war grave... Have no info about that at all, so still not confirmed.
There was back in 2004 salvages one Ju88 and one H-111 in remarcable good shape.
At the same time the remains of 2 more Junkers was found..
The search group told us that they found more but info is not given about what..
One wreck was burned an not possible for id..
One Ju52 is still there, it was coded RO+AU

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Old 26th March 2012, 21:10
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Hi John Fredrik

I have the following Ju 87 from Stukagruppe I./StG1 lost in Norway 1940:

09.04 Accident WNr. ? 60% Pilot ? airfield Sola
11.04 Accident WNr. ? 100% Pilot ? airfield Vaernes
14.04 Accident WNr. ? 60% Pilot ? airfield Fornebu
19.04 Accident WNr.5386 100% Lt. Karl Pfeil SW Hattfjelldal
25.03 British AC WNr. ? 100% unmanned airfield Vaernes 710/720 SQN
01.05 British AC WNr. ? 100% Ofw. Erich Stahl off Namsos 802 SQN
12.05 Accident WNr. ? 95% Pilot ? airfield Vaernes
24.05 British AC WNr. ? 100% Fw. Kurt Zube area Bodø 263 SQN
02.06 Swed. G/f WNr.0207 (¤%) Lt. Günther Brack area Abisko SW
02.06 British AC WNr. ? 100% Fw. Hans Ott SE Narvik 46 SQN
02.06 British AC WNr. ? 100% Lt. Klaus Kübel SE Narvik 46 SQN
02.06 British AC WNr.5428 100% Oblt. Heinz Böhme SE Narvik 263 SQN

Anybody who can help with further Stuka losses or corrections from this periode ?

Greetings from an early spring in Norway

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Old 26th March 2012, 21:39
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Hi Knut!

Here are some links that will give you som information regarding Wnr :

http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/fiplingvatn.html

http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/beisfjord.html

http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/beisfjord2.html

I also have some pictures in my collection of Stuka's at Jonsvatnet.
Think I have a picture of the one belly landed on Vaernes 11.April on my harddisc.
Need to look for it and I will get back to you,I think the code is visible.

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Old 26th March 2012, 22:15
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Hi, all

There were 7 Ju 87´s destroyed when Værnes airfield was bombed on April 26th - I believe this is the date and incident you are looking for.

As this was before the GenQu records hold information in WNr and the like, I do not have any further information at this point.

The unit is given as 1./St.G.1 - the 1st Staffel of Stukageschwader 1. There were no personnel losses in the unit on this date, and I have not directly researched these losses in other records.

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Old 26th March 2012, 22:24
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Hi, Knut

I have some additions to your list, will try to post it during the easter holiday.

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Old 27th March 2012, 11:18
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Hi Andreas

Thank you very much for your reply. I look forward to hear from you regarding this item with corrections or additions to my Stuka list. I have for a long time been very sceptical to the fact that Luftwaffe only lost 12 Ju 87 during the fighting in Norway April - June 1940.

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Old 27th March 2012, 11:43
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Hi John Fredrik

I have been in contact with Kjell Sørensen regarding thr 3 crash sites you mentioned. From there I have picked the 3 WNr in my list. I am very interested in photos of Stukas from the periode 1940 in Norway and look forward to see the photo of the 11th Apr accident and some from the frozen Jonsvatnet.
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