Bf 109B-1 W.Nos. question

[RT]

1719 is marked as D-1 /in fact as D1/ 1720 is a C-1, 1717 as B-1

1676 is a B-1 but then a big gap till 1690 a B-1, then a new gap till 1706 B-1 these gaps are quite big even if my list is far to be completed gen one could miss but not more, maybe a lot sent to Spain that failed to return

I could send you my complete list for B nd D, I never found a A...

On an other list where appears mostly the Knz , I could read at least 40 bf109 totally lost for 37/38

remi

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thank You Seaplane and Remi

I attach my home made Me 109A/B/C production list for all to see and comment. It is not easy to sit in your home sifting various experts statements in publications published. Just take the 109B-2! What was that and where is its production? Prien makes no committment and just says production was B and mentions no B-1 or B-2. Schick /Radinger mentions BOTH types, illustrate mostly B-2 but mentions ONLY B-1 in their production table! In their list the Spanish Bf 109B were B-1 but their photos ID each one as B-2...
Seaplane
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I haven't heard of any B-0, although they make sense! However I find a bit awkward to accept that production B-1 used later as prototypes V-9 and up would suddenly get a B-0 designation attached to them.It makes NO sense to start a batch of B-1 in Augsburg and all of a sudden call some of them B-0....
If you look at the production list, the ONLY two A that could possibly fit to make up the 22 listed in German docs are WNr 998-999. What do you think?
Remi
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I am not sure what you mean with WNr 1719 is "marked" D1. Do you have a photo or document? Again your source please. To me it makes NO sense at all to have ONE SINGLE D-1 in the middle of a B-1 and C-1 batch....

Cheers
Stig

[olefebvre]

i won't put to much effort in correctly matching Anton's WkNrs as for instance WkNr 884 is reffered to in several documents as a B...
My listing is much more complete and based on Losses, prodction doc, test doc from Mtt, FB and various other sources, and frankly there are a lot of inconsistencies between all those sources when it comes to the early variants.

[George Hopp]

Stig: Prien makes no committment and just says production was B and mentions no B-1 or B-2.

He is simply following Messerschmitt's own nomenclature for the Bf 109B. It did not differentiate between the two types of the a/c. The tags -- B-1 and B-2 -- have only come into use post-war to differentiate between the early a/c with the Schwarz propeller, and the later a/c with the VDM propeller. I am not certain, but I think that when the a/c was upgraded to the VDM propeller, it also got the later, more vertical, windshield.

[RT]

source: -Flugzeugunfälle u. verluste bei schulen usw.1940-1944
-Statische zusammenstellung der unfälle 1936-1942

remi

give me your mail adress I will send you the list, I hv no more space here to load it,
By the way Mister moderator how to recover this space ???