Airfield photos Bessarabia, Moldova, Ukraine,Bucovina

[researcher111]

With reference to your msg and in retrospect , I may agree with the other remarks although Mr Denes
your strength is definitely not the WWII Soviet Air Forces neither this of Karlenko,your strength is more
inclined towards Axis Air Forces. To reprint a corrected version of both volumes is a futile knoted issue and
could end up into a spin due lack of general interest and of deep VVS historical knowledge.

If you may be interested I could outline herewith some of your critical errors to alleviate
wrong conclussions at your end :

1. Most of Soviet VVS missions by date and by pilot fate were wrong
2. Some of the photos published do not belong to a specific topic neither match the crash location
3. You omitted other Polkas ( IAP ) which participated against Romania
one of which was this of the I-16 defector which later on flown by Ciocanel
4. Same about the MIG-3 defector's Polka (IAP) you omitted his name and his IAP .
4. Same about the IL-2 defector's Polka and his name , the pilot was interviewed
by a prominent IV Fliegerkorps Major and Col.Lissievic of SSI and the pilot was
even a graduate of Jukowsky Aeronautical Academy in Moscow!
5. You omitted various Black Sea IAP's which were also active against Romania
6. You omitted various emergency Russian airfields in Odessa Region and Bessarabia
7. If you would cross check the JG77, JG3, JG51,JG52,JG53, JG 54 KG4, KG 27, KG 51
history books with the Russian archives material you will come to the conclussion
that numerous reports of yours regarding victories were totally mismatching .

8. Mainly and foremost you forgotten a secret recon Polka equipped with R-10 which
was temporirly located near Romanian border and which was moved from Belarus
before June 1941 then from July on moved to Odessa and reequipped with IL-2

9. In various cases you outlined wrong crew fates most relevant of which
was this of DB-3F pilot Capt Schultz and his crew....they didn't crash at all at Ploesti
but 270 miles away in Ukraine due disorentation leading to fuel starvation and rather
all killed than taken POW.

10. You omitted at least 3 other Naval IAP based at Odessa one of which
secretly operated IL-2's middle of the City ( they were using a street for take off)

11. The most successful mission of the 40 BAP against Ploesti was not properly
described. To an extent was even more successful than HALPRO and Low Level Raid.

12. You didn't mention the 87 Russian pilots and aircrew members POW's
in Romania during 1941.....additionally Lt.Nikonov brought down by Agarici was
was instructor pilot of 3 URAP , the second SB-2 was not Agarici's work and
3rd one landed at Bolgrad .

13. etc etc etc

Unlike these two volumes, your other work on Axis were closer to the reality
though the Odessa volumes were good to start with ,not however to be published in
Europe and Russia coze such major errors definitely had an impact , facts you heard
from various authors already in the long past, period.

Cheers and good luck in the future

PS: Your collegues Avram, Turturica ,Arma, Melinte,Nitu are rookies distorting the
truth rather bringing the truth to the public, I can understand is hard to hear the
truth , though these are the facts ,you can take it or leave it .Last but not least
you know Col.Prof.Miroslaw Morozov he could brief you about me.

[muggs_ro]

I can't but admire you flair in post #4 Denes !

[researcher111]

Mike and Steve , what did I tell you ? it was a matter of time until his Romanian friends will show up and start campaigning for him .....! "Muggs " and the other guy were only the begining ! Thats how Denes intends to promote
his work.

[researcher111]

Mike, at the least the last one showed up by his real nick !

[researcher111]

Walter, danke fuer Ihre Mitteilung , ja ich wusste all dies,nichts was neues, das sind ja seine "Kumppel" aus Bukarest....das ist nur der Anfang
es werden mehr "sympathisanten " auftauchen....nichts neues mit diese Rumaene.

[researcher111]

Diese "Muggs" ist mir ja voll bekannt, verwendet bei Facebook gestholenen Ebay.de Fotos alles drum und dran ein richtige Internet "Spezialist" aus Bukarest. Wirklich es lohnt sich keinerlei Kommentar ( WWII Romania )

[researcher111]

Mike, you name it that's the pattern, first one and later with the rest of his "supporters "....how could I forget it !

[researcher111]

Mark,Walter, Mike, suggest you post your comments on here rather through Pvt posts...as long as they don't call me names
it's A OK rest assured I will act as soon as the campaign from Romania will become harassing ....its starts this way
and with his supporters such as Muggs,Melinte, Arma,etc the rest follows later on .

[researcher111]

Dan, thanks for your Pvt ...why don't you post on here the stuff ? The issue with Denes Bernard is that he doesn't accept criticism and ressorts to his Romanian "campaigners " as soon as someone dares to criticise him..... It's standard procedure with him and totally self defeating , I heard all this from other concerned parties. Do you by chance know "muggs " real name coze this guy harassed my German site too ? He is running a Facebook site called WWII Romania with lots of Ebay.de photos which appearently illegally obtained, cleaned and then posted. He's been doing this since years , coze in Romania there are no legal ways to claim fraud and copy rights infringement.

Nevertheless, I wish Denes and his buddies joy and happines with their games.

PS : Denes must be experiencing lots of disagreements around , coze otherwise won't be so suspicious at me at the very first begining , when in fact we never spoke before . I strongly recommed you post all your PvT messages on here !

[Nick Beale]

researcher111, The object here is to exchange information about aviation history, not to exchange insults. If you want to participate in TOCH, you'll be polite and you will not throw accusations around. You will not be conducting feuds with other people here and you won't be accusing people of crimes. If you have evidence of law-breaking you can take it to the police.

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