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Old 10th October 2017, 18:25
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

Dan,
Thanks for those links - appreciated. It would be interesting to see what the comments are in those links, so if you or Evgeny (or both of you) can translate any or all of the Russian text, that would be great.
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

Rottler/Leo,
I realise that English is not your first language, and so I made allowances for that in the other thread in which we had a discussion recently.

I believe you have misunderstood the point I was making with my reply in this thread. I was NOT saying all C-2s ended up as C-4s. I was saying that during the production run, things changed (i.e. the improved MG-FF/M 20 mm. cannon being available), and so what was a 'C-2' initial batch of W. Nr. resulted in the end with some of those airframes being upgraded to C-4 specifications and therefore they left the factory as C-4s. I do know that C-2s in the W. Nr. batches left the factory as C-2s, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM DID. Upgrades were also carried out 'in the field', not only for the fitment of 20 mm. cannons, but also for the fitment of armoured windscreens, for example.

Similarly, it appears to me that some of that last batch of D-3s built by FW were actually upgraded to E-2 specifications and therefore left the factory as E-2s.

I have tried to be as clear as possible in my replies to you. Why do I get the feeling that you are arguing with me simply for the sake of argument, rather than trying to grasp the simple statements I make?
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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

Hello John,

I have not intended to comment this theme in addition to my comment to Stig Jarlevik in post #6.
In post #15 you have encouraged me to give a further comment. I have nothing to add to my yesterday's reference to the Mankau/Petrick book.

I have taken notice of the results of your research (WNr. 4356 = Bf 110 E-2) and your statements and bring this discussion for my part to an end.

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Re: Bf 110 Werk-Nr. 4356

I have the Petrick/Mankau book also.

I have nothing to add to my posts either.

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