Event dated 19.9.1944 3 x YAK-9 shot down Belgrade

[researcher111]

[quote=Zoran Petek;299277]From the book Анохин В. А.
Все истребительные авиаполки Сталина. Первая полная
энциклопедия / Владимир Анохин, Михаил Быков. -
М. : Яуза-пресс, 2014. - 944 с.


Thanks Zoran !

[Mihai Pica]

Originally Posted by kirche

I do not know what the correct name of this airfield is, but I see how airfields of 168 Gw.IAP in September 1944 were named Chief of Staff of 10 Gw.ShAD Guards Colonel Artemyev and Head of the operational department Guard Major Usanov.
168 Gw.IAP was based in September at the airfield "ТЕКУЧИ" (6 days), at the airfield "БАНЯСА" (or "БЕНЯСА") (15 days) and at the "БАЛОМЫРУЛ-ДЕ-КЕМПЕНИ" airfield (9 days).
"ПИПЕРА" airfield is listed as a base for aircrafts of other two regiments of the same division.
The composition of the regiment is listed as - "Yak fighters" (without modification which rather indicates a mixed composition).

The airfields in question are :

- Tecuci
- Baneasa ( nothing to do with Pipera as researcher stated which is another airfield in Bucharest )
- Balomiru de Camp

[HGabor]

I have info about 3 Saratov built Yak-3 from batch No.13, that were assigned to the 17 VA, 236 IAD:

1013
1113
1213

1213 was assigned to the 267 IAP withinn the 236 IAD. All three planes were handed over to the new Yugoslavian Air Force in April, 1945.
Not sure about the other two assignments. They could be either 267 IAP, or 117, 168 GvIAPs. (I have AC serial lists for only 611 IAP, 117 GvIAP and all of the IL-2s, given to Yugoslavia in April, 1945. Unfortunately no confirmed serials for the 168 GvIAP - yet.)

Gabor

[researcher111]

Originally Posted by Mihai Pica

The airfields in question are :

- Tecuci
- Baneasa ( nothing to do with Pipera as researcher stated which is another airfield in Bucharest )
- Balomiru de Camp

Can you indicate on map where in relation to Baneasa ,Otopeni or Leordemi was Pipera located ? same as Balomiru

[researcher111]

Originally Posted by Mihai Pica

The airfields in question are :

- Tecuci
- Baneasa ( nothing to do with Pipera as researcher stated which is another airfield in Bucharest )
- Balomiru de Camp

Pipera was an other airfield ?

I have overlapped Pipera's aerial taken by Luftwaffe during
WWII on the right of Google map of Baneasa airfield or of today's
Aurel Vlaicu airport . In WWII Pipera might have been just 1-2
Km SE of Baneasa airfield but part of the same facility and
probably under same control tower , Baneasa was the civilian
part of it -

[researcher111]

Yes is correct in Sept 44 they were at Tecuci , then Pipera ( Baneasa Bucharest ) and then Decampeni
probably somewhere near Oradea. Also correct the mixed fleet of YAK-1 , 3 and 9 . The 5th VA
documents may not be as good as the 168th Opersvodka , because by Sept they may have been
under 17th VA . Relevant remaining the grounds on why they arrived over Belgrade and how the three
again managed to stage an escape from Lodj on 27.10.44,aslo why the remaining two of them were
handed over by SD Lodj to Gestapo Frankfurt just in order to be executed later on.

An other open thing is not clear when exactly the GvIAP 168 became part of 17VA

[kirche]

https://pamyat-naroda.ru/documents/view/?id=450417519

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[researcher111]

Again if you post these links for public is fine ,longer ago I downloaded
all Opersvodkas 2VA , 5VA and 17th VA , so nothing new as far as I am
concerned .