KG66 Ju88S-3 at Sola, May '45. Pic

[Marcel van Heijkop]

Hi Del,

Hmm, difficult question... I seem to say "within 5 years" for some years now...

As most of us, I have to do the writing on top of my everyday life and job. At the moment I'm busy writing everything out in a war diary format. (Because I started seriously considering writing a unit history only late in the 90's, I decided to focus on collecting first and processing second. Maybe not always smart, but with hindsight I was able to record some remarkable veteran stories that way just "in front of the bulldozers", so to speak...) And as some on this forum can tell you, you won't believe how time consuming it is to translate a Flugbuch written in Suterlin into something readable. And we are not all as efficient as Chris Goss or Jochen Prien ;-)

But rest assured that it will be worth the wait. I can say without any arrogance (and looking at my collected "treasures") that I./KG66 is a fascinating unit with more than enough aspects to satisfy the modeller/radar nut/LW buff/historian.

All the best,

Marcel

[Del Davis]

Thank you, Marcel
I do appreciate the complexity of your work and I think you made the right choice in collecting the treasures first. May I also inquire about the fate ot the "Dutch Airfields Study" with which you are also involved.
Cheers

[Seaplanes]

Dear Marcel,

My information is based on the following two documents:
"Aus Dänemark am 5.5.1945 zugeführte Flugzeuge, O.Qu./Ltd.Ing. Br.Nr. 6977/45 geh. 7. Mai 1945".
This document contain a complete list of all aircraft arriving in Norway on this date. However, we know of at least two FW 190 that crashed in eastern Norway and not included in this list, so it seems that the list only covers aircraft arriving on an airfield.

The second document is "Flugzeug-Gesamtbestand geordnet nach Flugzeugmustern, Komm.Gen.d.Dt.Lw. in Norwegen/O.Qu./Ltd.Ing. 6.6.1945". This list give type, W.Nr., location, unit and status of all Luftwaffe aircraft in Norway at the time of capitulation.

Both documents are in the custody of the Riksarkivet in Oslo. Unfortunately, ex. Luftwaffe records are not available for another few years as they are being sorted. I had the opportunity to get access many years ago, but also for me these records has not been available since then.

[atckyrre]

Many thanks for all the input folks, I wasn't expecting such a response! Lots of lovely info for us modelbuilders.
Unfortunately the book I scanned the picture from has no other pictures of German planes, a PM has been sent to Marcel regarding the rest of the info.

Am I right in assuming that this might perhaps be a typical 1945 scheme? (picture borrowed from Kjetil Åkra's photobucket)

[Marcel van Heijkop]

Kyrre,

This is definitely a I./KG66 machine in early 1945, one of the first Staffel actually. This picture is part of a series which I own. Location is very likely Dedelstorf and if not, Tutow (I./KG66's next airfield).

To my untrained eye this camo version looks more blurred than that of Z6+BH in the canal. In the latter case the distinction between the colours and dots/squiggles seems much sharper.

Seaplanes,

Thanks a lot for the correct titles! This will help a lot trying to order them (whenever apperently....). You look quite informed regarding the Riksarkivet, could you help me with some questions?
1. Does the Riksarkivet also use reference codes for documents, such as the RL Signaturen with the BAMA Freiburg? And if so, do you know the reference numbers for the mentioned LW documents?
2. I always wondered what happened to all those Flugbücher and other personal documents confiscated when the Germans surrendered in Norway. Is it possible that they ended up on some of the (unsorted?) shelfs of the Riksarkivet or were they taken by the British? (And in the latter case, anybody?!.....)

Del,

I try to be a "homo universalis" but I have my limits.. I think you mean my fellow countryman and Nachtjagd/Fliegerhorst Venlo Experte Marcel Hoogenhuis. Maybe Marcel Hoogenhuis, Jaap Woortman or John Manrho can help here? (HEREN?!) I got the impression some time ago that a book was near...

Regards to all,

Marcel

[Del Davis]

Marcel
Thank you setting me straight. I will post my query as a separate item and see who responds.

[Seaplanes]

To Marcel,

When I saw these documents many years ago, they had not been assigned a Riksarkivet signature. As I said, they are now working to making a catalogue for ex. Luftwaffe docs in their custody. When this work is completed I do not know. However, I do know that about 95% of the material concerns Luftwaffe bautruppen and Organisation Todt with relations to Norwegian workers. Only a fraction concerns operational Luftwaffe matters.

[Marcel van Heijkop]

Hi Seaplanes,

Thanks for the update regarding the Riksarkivet and keep us informed when they have everything organized and sorted out! Please see my PM.

Regards,

Marcel