Late war Bf 109 pictures source

[Oberst]

I found these two W.Nr.'s in JG 52 logs:

W.Nr. 610 527, 18/2/45, II./JG 51
W.Nr. 610 529, 27/1/45, II./JG 51

Possible 'Rosemarie' candidates.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hi folks,

I've uploaded the following machines today:


1. Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 161 742
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

2. Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 164 725
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

3. Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 442 006
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

4. Bf 109 G-14 W.Nr. 413 607
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

I've also found two question raising Bf 109 K-4 I will post in another specifically thread.

Cheers
Marc

[Cpt_Farrel]

Nice finds! I don't think the Wrk.Nr for Blue 3 is correct though. 413607 would have had a tall tail and the extra bulge below the regular bulge for the Mg131's. The camo looks more like WNF or possibly Mtt.Regensburg.

Cheers! / Anders

[Dénes Bernád]

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[veltro]

Originally Posted by Cpt_Farrel

413607 would have had a tall tail and the extra bulge below the regular bulge for the Mg131's.

FWIW, the "double" starboard cowl bulge wasn't in reality a characteristic attributable to a particular version other than the G-5. In fact, such modified cowls were built originally for the Bf 109G-5 series to accomodate the pressurization compressor moved to that side once the bigger MG 131s were adopted.

Thus, such little bulge (along with its small airscoop) had sense only for the G-5. Unfortunately such version was built in much lower numbers than foreseen, while the modified cowls were apparently built at a much more "enthusiastic" rate.

The net result was that they were available in much greater numbers than the G-5s, so - not to waste material - it was decided to use them in late G-6/early G-14 batches (which chronologically were being produced when such occurrence happened...).

After all, the same happened a little later with the "double-chinned" (horrible English term, I know) lower engine cowls which, being available in great numbers at MTT Regensburg, were applied on their G-14/ASs though there was no necessity at all of any "chin bulge" on that sub-type.

[Cpt_Farrel]

Thanks Ferdinando, I started writing something similar but it sounded wrong so I deleted it. I know that it's a leftover from G-5 production but I couldn't put together a good explanation as I was in a hurry.

[Oberst]

Little more info I dug up:

Me 109G-10 W.Nr.'s 610 300 - 610 600, delivered mid jan./45 to II./JG 51(jan 6/45) and II./JG 52(jan 12/45). JG 51 was disbanded on 12.4.45 (Fels am Wagram airbase).

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Thanks Ferdinando for tidying our G-14 knowledge; decidedly a tough variant to recognize, even more so with intermeshed W.Nr. In the 165xxx-166xxx and 413xxx blocks.

Yo napot kivanok Dénes,
You have to get a Flickr account, then it should work.

Oberst,

I hope you will finally unearth "Rosemarie"'W.Nr! Thanks for ur efforts.

And greetings to all from Lebanon!
Marc

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

You have to get a Flickr account, then it should work.

I have an Flickr account but the links doesn't work ...

Regards
Rasmussen

[Pilot]

wasn't in reality a characteristic attributable to a particular version other than the G-5.

Finland had G-6 with this feature