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Old 22nd December 2018, 21:37
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

Extract from CX/MSS/26, 1941:

20/6, I/JG. 27 Bf. 109 C-7 works number 6375 : 100% loss on take off, no injuries.
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"Field Post No. L 02689 is connected with Field Court Martial of Fliegerfuehrer AFRIKA at present at H.Q. Aerodrome Regional Command BENGASI and can be reached at H.Q. Luftgau Post Office MUNICH. (21/6)"
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Old 22nd December 2018, 21:53
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

Extract from CX/MSS/26, 1941:
Report by Fliegerkorps I on 2/7:
5 Bf. 109 F-2, Works No. 9569, 9583, 9572, 9584 and 9(?558?) are assigned to J.G. 54 from A/c Distributing Station BROMBERG.

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Same document, re: Eastern Europe-
“O.C. Close Defence Battle Units. IA reported on 1/7 that IV/J.G. 51 had been moved to BARANOWICZE in accordance with the original orders, as the orders cancelling the move had not been received.
Same source had already reported earlier on 1/7 to Fliegerkorps II that IV J.G. 51 and III Stuka (1?) were to be moved forward to MINSK on 2/7, and asked for the allocation of 5 Ju. 52s to each of the Gruppen for the purpose.”
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

Extracted from CX/MSS/30 (July 1941)

"On 2/7, Fliegerkorps X issued following orders to Fliegerfueher AFRIKA and the elements at MARITA, RHODES, with reference to yellow markings on a/c:
(1) The yellow markings on the engine cowling and the tail unit will be discontinued with immediate effect for operations in the S.E. area.
(2) A/c engaged on operations in the South Eastern area, i.e. in Luftgau South East and in AFRIKA will have no yellow markings whatever.
(3) When flying into the area of Luftflotten 1, 2, or 4, or into RUMANIA, the order of 24/6 concerning yellow markings will be adhered to."
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

Extracted from CX/MSS/31 (July 1941)

“On 1/7 Luftflotte 5 informed the Air Officer for North Norway that it appeared from a report on damage that the He. 60 a/c DA + KX of K.Gr z.b.V 108 had been employed for reconnaissance on 28/4/41. Special employment of this nature should in future only occur after consultation with the L.G.Kdo. or Luftflotte”
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Also, on 1/7, Ju 52 BI + LA of I/JG 54 was out of service while undergoing a 50 hour test.
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Old 24th December 2018, 20:21
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Extracted from CX/MSS/31 (July 1941)

“Luftgau 1, ELEUSIS, Abteilung III, informed Operational Training Gruppe, Luftgau 1, on 1/7 that a Ju. 88 B, Works no. 5281, was allotted to the Operational Bomber Training Gruppe, and was in ERDING, ready to be fetched away.”
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“On 1/7 Fliegerkorps X informed G.A.F. Station SALONIKA that a Ju. 88 a/c P4 + BA, piloted by Hptm. WITTING of H.Q. Fliegerkorps X, had stated from WIEN-ASPERN at 0800/29/6 and had not been known to land in the area. Investigations as to its whereabouts were required.”
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Extracted from CX/MSS/31 (July 1941)

“3 Bf. 110/2 (Trop.) with DB601/A, works nos. 4425,4442, 4448, and Ju 87 R4 (Trop.) works no. 6212 have been assigned to Staff, Stuka 3 by air equipment depot ERDING and are to be fetched 4/7”
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“On 2/7 Fliegerkorps X inquired of the C. in C. G.A.F. how soon they could reckon on the delivery of 3 Bf 110 E3 a/c with N engines”
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

July 1941, extracts from CX/MSS/31

“Late on 2/7 Ib. (presumably of Fliegerkorps X) reported the loss of a Bf. 110 Works no. 3458, crew Feldwebel SCHOENE and Uffz. ROHDE.”

-Ju 52 movements reported 2/7 :

1Z + JU - CASTEL BENITO to BENINA; arr. 1015
1Z + H5 - TATOI to CATANIA; dep. 1350
1Z + HT - TATOI to CATANIA; arr. 1015
1Z + KW, AW, BW CASTEL BENITO to CATANIA; arr. 0920
1Z + AD, DD, ED, HD, FD, HW - CASTEL BENITO to CATANIA; arr. 0945
1Z + AW, KW, AW, BW - CASTEL BENITO to CATANIA; DEP. 1046
1Z + AD, DD, ED, HD, FD, HW, ET, JN - CASTEL BENITO to CATANIA; dep. 1120
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separate reports on 2/7 also give these movements:
(unspecified type a/c) 1Z + EV - TATOI to CATANIA dep. 0456
Ju. 52 1Z + EV - TATOI to CATANIA; dep. 0457
Ju. 52 1Z + IT - BENINA to CASTEL BENITO; dep. 1110
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

Information extracted from CX/MSS/38, July 1941:

Ju 88 F6 + NH was mentioned in communication from Flusi (A/c security) FUEURZAUBER to 1 (F) 122.
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Information extracted from CX/MSS/36, July 1941:

On 5/7 Flakkorps I reported (report 11, addressed to Luftflotte 2 1a op2 -1C):
"Flakkorps I today shot down it’s 80th a/c and on 4/7 destroyed it’s 47th A.F.V.Flakregiment 101 on 4/7 shot down 4 a/c and destroyed 5 A.F.V.s in addition to the 2 A.F.V.s mentioned in report number 10.
Flakregiment 104 on 3/7 shot down 1a/c."
Ju 88 works no. 6559 crashed on 4/7 at 1810 "[i]near KALODKINA on hitting a tree. The crew were dead and buried.
Report will follow from Fliegerkorps IV."
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

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Originally Posted by Bruce Dennis View Post
Extract from CX/MSS/26, 1941:
Report by Fliegerkorps I on 2/7:
5 Bf. 109 F-2, Works No. 9569, 9583, 9572, 9584 and 9(?558?) are assigned to J.G. 54 from A/c Distributing Station BROMBERG.

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Same document, re: Eastern Europe-
“O.C. Close Defence Battle Units. IA reported on 1/7 that IV/J.G. 51 had been moved to BARANOWICZE in accordance with the original orders, as the orders cancelling the move had not been received.
Same source had already reported earlier on 1/7 to Fliegerkorps II that IV J.G. 51 and III Stuka (1?) were to be moved forward to MINSK on 2/7, and asked for the allocation of 5 Ju. 52s to each of the Gruppen for the purpose.”
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The Bf109F-2 WNr.9558 was lost on 11-Jul-1941 while in 1./JG53.
Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, VI.2, p.115; Prien, JG 53, I, p.414
Via Georg Morrison.

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