#241
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Hi Franck,
Yep, there are good and not often published... Will think of all the needed items if it works out;-)) Cheers Marc |
#242
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Franck,
As an afterthought, the most satisfying one is certainly Bf 109 G-6/AS W.Nr. 163 987 "Weisse 10" from II./JG 3 in Nogent-le-Roi. This pic keeps on popping up in Ebay, always shown partially and distorted. Fernandez-Sommerau publishes it, and part of the "Weisse 10" can just be glimpsed, it allows positive identification of this machine thanks to the lists of Luftwaffe fighters found on the liberated airfields by Allied troops, published by J.-B. Frappé in 1996. The most aesthetic one is certainly Bf 109 G-8 "Schwarze 11" of NAGr. 9, somewhere near... Santhià;-)) Cheers Marc Cheers |
#243
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Hello Marc,
Yes... Why not? But it's flat everywhere from Torino to Venezia around the Po. Rice field? difficult to say ... and point a place. But in a Cascina for sure! a 100%! Cheers, Franck. |
#244
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
An odd test in 1944?
Except the tall tail unit, nothing allows the identification of the place and the sense of the ongoing test activities. http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream All informations will be highly appreciated. Cheers Marc |
#245
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Hello Marc,
I don’t have a copy of the famous photo to which you refer in front of me right now, but unless I am mistaken, I believe that “Bf 109 G-6/AS W.Nr. 163 987 "Weisse 10" from II./JG 3 in Nogent-le-Roi,” is actually a 109G-6 and not an AS. Crashed Enemy Aircraft (CEA) report #257 lists its engine as being, DB605A-1, WNr. 007 07724; and all of the technical details I in my database indicate a G-6. If I am wrong in this, I would love to correct my files. Steve Sheflin |
#246
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Quote:
Where it is stated or ascertained that the photo indicated was taken in Italy...? As far as the thread we had on it is concerned, it could have been taken anywhere in Southern Europe. And there is simply no proof at all that it belonged to NAGr.11. These are the facts so far, any further proof of anthing else would be truly welcome.
__________________
All the best, Ferdinando D'Amico |
#247
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Hi there Steve,
Here it is: oddly enough, there were two "Weisse 10" found in Nogent-le-Roi. The first one is the well known W.Nr. 166 224, and the second is W.Nr. 163 987, of which I attached the pic here. You will notice the vertical bar of the "1" showing under the GI's thigh who leans in the cockpit, whilst the second digit "0" can bearly be seen at the height of the neck and chin of the second, standing GI. I agree that the list of planes does not mention an AS engine...but the photo shows otherwise... Cheers Marc Last edited by Marc-André Haldimann; 28th April 2014 at 08:22. |
#248
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Quote:
Sincerely Marc |
#249
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Quote:
And from this, to find elsewhere quoted as a fact your "tentative identity proposal" (as written in too much smaller characters below the data accompanying the photograph - BTW the only question mark I see is after the Werke Nummer, not enough, it seems - a fact that will be overlooked by those looking only for certainties in the caption), the step is very short. Your work of collecting and making visible late Bf 109 images from various sources is more than commendable (I'd rather say invaluable), but trying to make ends meet at all costs is a way to ruin this, believe me. Thanks as always for your attention
__________________
All the best, Ferdinando D'Amico |
#250
|
||||
|
||||
Re: Late war Bf 109 pictures source
Ferdinando,
Many thanks for your praise! I will stand true to the hoped for standard and thus "neutralize" the legend, as safety of research obviously commends. Cheers Marc |
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
Bf 109 in a spin - what was it like? | DavidIsby | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 3 | 11th July 2010 01:54 |
Bf 109 in East Coast War Bond Drive, 1944 | Richard Muller | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 2 | 2nd February 2010 03:47 |
Losses - III./JG76 in October 1944 | Andre Stewart | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 10 | 14th October 2009 10:06 |
Bf 109 E-1s during the Battle of Britain | Christer Bergström | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 10 | 17th June 2006 19:20 |
Discussion on the air war in Tunisia | Christer Bergström | Luftwaffe and Axis Air Forces | 14 | 1st April 2005 18:47 |