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Re: Anton Hackl
Great JG300 site Michael. Why didn't I even think of something so simple??
The info on the site confirms what I posted earlier from Lexikon der Wehrmacht - if you click on the links for the Gruppen you'll see I and III were Bf109, II was FW190, all from beginning to end. Unfortunately the site is silent on Stab. The Osprey Elite Units 20 Sturmgruppen book has considerable commentary up until December 1944, then very little because the concept was shelved due to the overwhelming opposition. It does say that the Sturmgruppen provided their own fighter cover, which explains the mix of FW90 and Bf109 - the FW to go after the bombers and the Bf to keep the fighters busy. If we knew what a/c Hackl shot down it might give a clue, but that would still leave us without confirmation. Back to the JG300 website, I had a bit of a laugh when I saw a loss on 24/12/44 - Anton Hack in a Bf109G14AS! Hackl wasn't there then ......... Cheers |
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Re: Anton Hackl
Good afternoon Peter,
I don't think that Uffz. Anton Hack is Anton Hackl. We have Stab/JG300 losses on 31Dec1944 and 2Mar1945, both Bf109G's. Thus, we can assume that Hackl, who scored between those dates, might have flown a Messerschmitt as well. Is there any evidence that Hackl scored any JG76 kills ? Cheers, Michael |
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Re: Anton Hackl
Hello Michael.
I wasn't suggesting Hack was Hackl. As I said, Hackl wasn't there yet. I just found it somewhat amusing there might be 2 with almost identical names in the same unit at the same time. I wouldn't have thought that name would be all that common. I'm not sure there is any proof of his kills from 22 May 1944 to 28 Oct 1944. I certainly don't have any. Only what is repeated on several sites - 16 kills. Cheers! |
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Re: Anton Hackl
Good morning Peter,
unfortunately, that website http://ww2.dk/oob/bestand/jagd/bstjg300.html indicates that there were no Bf109's at Stab/JG300 in December 1944. :-( Does Jochen Prien's book https://www.amazon.de/Jagdgeschwader...T21VFM899VH8TB make a statement regarding the JG11 total of Anton Hackl ? Cheers, Michael |
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Re: Anton Hackl
Michael, that goes back to my post #18 - the sole Bf109G-14 was sent for overhaul some time after 7 November, but because the movement records stop in December, we don't know if it came back to the unit in January or later, or if it went elsewhere.
Peter |
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Re: Anton Hackl
Good morning Peter,
does a photo of Hackl's Fw190D exist ? Cheers, Michael |
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Re: Anton Hackl
Sorry Michael, I'm not aware of any for either Stab II./JG26 or Stab JG11. Not for lack of trying.
Cheers |
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Re: Anton Hackl
Good afternoon,
does Jochen Prien's book https://www.amazon.de/Jagdgeschwader...T21VFM899VH8TB make a statement regarding the JG11 total of Anton Hackl ? Cheers, Michael |
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Re: Anton Hackl
Good evening,
I'm still interested in opinions about if Hackl's single JG300 kill was more likely scored in a Bf109 or in an Fw190. Michael |
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Re: Anton Hackl
Anton Hackl is a promising candidate for the top-scoring Fw 190D pilot, isn't he?
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