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Old 29th August 2005, 11:25
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Re: Graf or Steinhoff?

A lot of mumbling but nobody asked Goering as yet.
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Old 29th August 2005, 11:30
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Who want's to go where he is - and have a hope of comming back?

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Old 29th August 2005, 12:06
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Hermann strikes back!
Seriously, I suppose he was interviewed on that post-war, so a respective report must exist somewhere. My point is that nobody here thought about the checking the other side.
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Old 29th August 2005, 16:26
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My point is that nobody here thought about the checking the other side.
Not really true, there have been several references to Koller, who arguably was part of "the other side".
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Old 29th August 2005, 19:50
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Not really true, there have been several references to Koller, who arguably was part of "the other side".
Yes. And Gollob.

To compare the previous sacking of Galland with Graf being permitted to remain in command of JG 52 when the whole Eastern Front collapsed, is a slight case of apples and pears. But let's not get lost on that. I think it's time to leave the subject where it is - until someone else brings in new facts - because I feel the discussion might get too heated otherwise.
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I can only agree with Christer. Let's wait until new solid evidence surface. I will have a look in Kollers diary when I go to Freiburg again in december. Discussions involving Christer and Franek tends to overheat at some point This is not said to offend any of them!!

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Old 30th August 2005, 02:11
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Re: Graf or Steinhoff?

I do not see a point for heated discussion. I just only want to note that there must be a comment by Goering about surrounding events. I have heard a completely different version concerning Galland's dismissal and I would tend to believe it.
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Old 30th August 2005, 02:34
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Re: Graf or Steinhoff?

Franek,it would be interesting to hear other version of Gallands dismissal,can you enlighten us

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Old 30th August 2005, 03:08
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It was Hitler who sacked him, and Goering unsuccessfully defended him.
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Old 30th August 2005, 21:24
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It was Hitler who sacked him, and Goering unsuccessfully defended him.
This claim does go against the grain, could you please state a source?
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