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Old 15th May 2016, 23:19
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

My two cents...

Fluids are common. I have been involved with a few recoveries and many times coolant and fuel still remains.

These wrecks in the East are not being recovered because they want to "finally give the pilot a burial"....or for "historical purposes".

They are being recovered for money and the VALUE of the wreckage. If these were worth scrap value, no one would be doing it.

If it were not for the collectors in the West...AS WELL as the collectors in the EAST (trust me, there are a lot)...no one would be bothering to recover or dig for these wrecks.

This specific wreck was not really dug "carefully"...I cringed every time the backhoe tore into the fuselage when trying to pull it up.

Everything was done with haste...which is why people are a bit upset.

Already parts from the wreck are being sold for money...

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Old 16th May 2016, 01:57
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

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Already parts from the wreck are being sold for money...
Where?
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Old 17th May 2016, 04:30
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

Boris, you are a deluded piece of work.
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Old 17th May 2016, 16:07
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

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Boris, you are a deluded piece of work.
Please explain your comment. Personal attacks are not allowed on this board.
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Old 17th May 2016, 16:22
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Please explain your comment. Personal attacks are not allowed on this board.
I assume he is referring to Boris stating that us "Western Collectors" are "all scum"...and are "no different than grave-robbing looters."



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Old 17th May 2016, 16:51
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I assume he is referring to Boris stating that us "Western Collectors" are "all scum"...and are "no different than grave-robbing looters." Mike
Perhaps you can point out to the rest of us where these particular items are being sold on the internet or elsewhere (as per Rasmussen's original query above)? Without providing such evidence, there is really no proof of the foul play here.
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Old 17th May 2016, 17:42
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Perhaps you can point out to the rest of us where these particular items are being sold on the internet or elsewhere (as per Rasmussen's original query above)?
I'd suspect you get no response ...
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Old 17th May 2016, 20:39
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

No response is tacit admission of the evidence lacking, so it is all alright...

Perhaps the subject is exhausted now, too bad that potentially interesting thread turned out almost political.
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Old 17th May 2016, 21:56
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

About the greenish color, is the farbbeutel still an hypothesis?

Already seen this color involving wreckage with body (to remain in this grim reality).

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Old 17th May 2016, 22:45
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Re: New Me109 Wreck Discovered. ** Some Graphic Content

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I'd suspect you get no response ...
Well....The reason why I know why parts being are sold...it because I bought some of them.

I have numerous contacts in Russia, and some of the people on the recovery team kept what the museum did not want.

They then offered the parts for sale on various Russian forums.

I knew about the wreck and acquired the parts before the video was posted online.

I was not in any way saying it was BAD that the parts were being sold. I rather save the parts than have them be thrown out or scrapped.

The StuG III that was pulled from a bog a few years back (see youtube) was taken apart and sold for parts..as a perfect example.

When these Me109 parts were offered, I grabbed them, so they were not sent to the scrapper.

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