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Old 19th February 2006, 22:28
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Re: Operation Aphrodite

Hello Mike,
That doesn't mean that she was not named by her last crews in the "Aphrodite" team.

However to confirm your earlier one on named a/c "B17 Nose Art Name Directory" has -
"Melancholy" - 381 - 44-6950
"Melancholy Baby" - 381 - 44-6950
"Melancholy Baby" - 482 -

So 44-6950 was at one time a "Melancholy Baby"
while an unknown a/c with the 482BG was too.
Can it be found if 42-39827 was at any time with the 482nd BG ?
Freemans "B17 the Flying Fortress Story" has only note of the use by 306BG.

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Old 19th February 2006, 22:47
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Re: Operation Aphrodite

History of B - 17 #42-39827:
306th BG 369th Sq. WW G Nov. 24th , 1943
Transferred to Air Force Service Command May 1 , 1944
Assigned Aphrodite August 14 , 1944
Anything is possible - maybe she was called Melancholy Baby because of her intended use?

B - 17 # 46950 1) " Alabama Girl" 2) " Melancholy" 3) " Melancholy Baby"
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Old 19th February 2006, 23:10
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Re: Operation Aphrodite

Hi Mike,
Yes agree 44-6950, only looked under Melancholy Baby.
Thanks for additional Alabama Girl .
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Old 20th February 2006, 03:35
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Re: Operation Aphrodite

Hallo Brian, Alex and Mike,

To further help - or confuse - matters. The B-17 I referred to was a 452nd BG aircraft with a (normal) full bomb load. Hence the alarm which it did indeed cause. The pilot was Eccles and the date was the 30th September 1944. Another 452nd BG B-17 (43-38201) piloted by Beauchat crash-landed on its home airfield of Deopham Green on the 29th. I have the USAAF Accident Report, which includes photos, for the latter. Ed Hinrichs in his book MISSING PLANES OF THE 452nd BOMB GROUP unfortunately gives the same serial number to both above incidents.

Brian. Sorry if I threw a spanner in the works but I hope at least that part of it is cleared up to your satisfaction. While agreeing with your general comment about newspaper accuracy the details of the towns that the Eccles B-17 passed over in Britain were new to me. I could never work out the route it flew over England up to this. Many thanks.

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Old 20th February 2006, 09:48
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Re: Operation Aphrodite

Hi Martin

You HAVE confused me!!

'My' story refers to a drone, apparently called Melancholy Baby possibly 39827 that had been abandoned by Haller & Shinault on 14 September, NOT Eccles' aircraft!

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Old 12th March 2006, 19:40
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Alex, Martin and Mike

My conclusion regarding the BQ-7 vs Melancholy Baby saga is that I am wrong and you are right! I think the newspaper reporter had confused the two breaking stories and somehow assumed that Melancholy Baby (minus its crew) was in fact a BQ-7 drone. Therefore I have dropped the idea of including the anecdote in my forthcoming book, as interesting as it is! Facts must prevail!!

Thanks for preventing another 'egg on face' scenario!

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