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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?
Good morning twocee,
the main reason why aces usually overshadow bomber pilots is that the former's successes can be expressed in numbers. Possible methods of assessing a bomber pilot's achievements are comparing number of missions flown or tonnage sunk. Hans-Georg Bättcher and Werner Baumbach are the top German bomber pilots by these criteria, respectively. I wonder if it is possible to determine the top Allied bomber pilots... Have a nice weekend, Michael |
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?
Were all SB2C aerial victories scored in the PTO (and not CBI) ?
Cheers, Michael |
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?
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who was the gunner of Allen Lee Lewis ? Cheers, Michael |
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?
The claim was shared among six Helldivers. The ACA report did not list the gunners. His other claims were while flying a Hellcat.
Enjoy! Frank.
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?
Good morning Frank,
hope you had a good Xmas. Currently, I'm working through Barrett Tillman's "Helldiver Units of World War 2" and I was wondering which Helldiver team had the highest combined score. These are the candidates: LT Robert Brownwell Parker // VB-19 // 3.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 LT Allen Lee Lewis // VB-14 // 2.166 // 0.000 // 1.666 LTJG Samuel Thomas Elway // VB-14 // 2.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 LTJG Melvin Antoni Mor // VB-14 // 2.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 LTJG R E Lee Duncan Jr // VB-19 // 1.500 // 0.000 // 0.000 LTJG George Glumac // VB-19 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 LTJG Charles Forrest Fisher // VB-19 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 LT Robert Dean Niemeyer // VB-19 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 ENS William Hugh Harris Jr // VB-17 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 ARM3c Stanley E Wallace // VB-17 // 2.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 ARM3c Ernest Joseph Elias // VB-19 // 2.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 ARM2c Joseph Serensis Jr // VB-14 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 ARM1c John Abbott Puryear // VB-14 // 1.000 // 0.000 // 0.000 I would also like to include the Helldiver kills in this table: https://www.warbirdsandairshows.com/...torieswwii.htm Would you deem it justified to say that all Helldiver kills are PTO kills ? I wish you a good Thursday, Michael |
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?
For Lewis, only 0.166/0/0.166 of his claims are on the Helldiver; the additional claims were while flying the Hellcat, although still with VB-14.
Elway's two victories are both on the Hellcat. Same with Mor. Duncan has one victory on the Helldiver; his gunner was Elias, who has 1.5. Glumac has one; gunner unstated. Fisher has one; his gunner was Hendrick with 0.5 shared with Elias. Niemeyer has one; gunner unstated. Harris has one in 1943; gunner unstated; plus he has 4 more on the F4U-1d with VBF-83 in 1945. Wallace has 2, pilot unknown, in 1943. Serensis has one; pilot unknown. Puryear has one, pilot unknown, plus 2 shared damaged. The 1943 claims are during a raid on Rabaul; all the other claims are in 1944, mostly in the Philippines. The only land-based operator of the Helldiver was the French Navy in the 1950s in French Indo China, and it encountered no enemy aircraft. Enjoy! Frank.
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?
Good morning dear Frank,
thanks for your very interesting post ! I deduct that a team score of 3 was only achieved by Parker/Ross and maybe by Harris (if his gunner was Wallace). I never saw a CBI claim by a Navy aircraft type. May it be that Navy aircraft by definition scored no CBI kills and that all Navy kills against the Japanese are PTO kills ? I wish you a good New Year's Eve, with best greetings from Switzerland, Michael |
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?
This topic is very interesting indeed!
Edward L. Hsiao |
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?
The only CBI claims by Navy aircraft would include the carrier launched raids on Formosa and Hong Kong.
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Re: SB2C aerial victories - Pilot names?
The only USN/USMC aircraft type claims outside the PTO that I know of are:
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