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Old 11th November 2023, 09:36
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Re: Photos German Aircraft

Hi Stig,


Thanks for the reply. As you'll deduce from my last post, I'm inclined to agree with you,not least because there's no /** after the 151. That said, I don't think that the fact that we can see no military markings on this early machine/photo is a clincher. I'm not sure if you own a copy of Aeronaut's Aviatik Aircraft of WWI,but if so take a look at the photo P.4 (1st edition) there is a photo of B.99/ in a hanger with no markings visible on the fuselage or upper wings.


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Old 11th November 2023, 21:12
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Re: Photos German Aircraft

I agree Clint

The problem with these early photos (well almost everything sold on e-bay) are we simply lack both dates
and places, so all we can do is to make a "best guess".

I usually myself date photos like this as "pre-delivery" since I don't think the German Army flew around
for long with aircraft lacking national markings at least not post 1913.

The further on we get in time (1914 and on), I believe the manufacturers painted up these Army markings
directly before delivery, including the Bestellnummer.

The problem with these early photos are we lack not only dates/places but also much other data.
For instance I have no idea where WNr 151 was going. To the Army or Aviatik's own school?
Since I am in New Zealand right now I cannot check any books or other data from back home....

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Old 29th November 2023, 09:41
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Re: Photos German Aircraft

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a number of (rather small) photos of German aircraft as follows:


Zeppelin-Staaken RML.I


https://www.ebay.de/itm/225892647902...8AAOSwQCplZlH~


LVG C.II 4295/15


https://www.ebay.de/itm/225892646001...gAAOSwBbxlZlGF


Euler B.II B.137*/15 & Aviatik C.I (Han) C.600/16


https://www.ebay.de/itm/225892644756...EAAOSwMRZlZlKb


Presumably,more to follow when the seller notices that many items are posted showing the rear of the photo?


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Old 9th December 2023, 20:28
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Re: Photos German Aircraft

Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a rather nice photo of a AEG J.I of FA (A) 207


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...921710285.html


For a small number of photos related to the same unit see


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...s%5B%5D=122548


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Old 10th December 2023, 15:11
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Re: Photos German Aircraft

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Euler Doppeldecker Wnr 189


https://www.ebay.de/itm/296100777186...QAAOSwP5tldaP9


While the sellers watermark does detract from the quality of the photo, I thought it worth posting given its rarity.


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Old 29th December 2023, 02:55
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Re: Photos German Aircraft

https://www.ebay.de/itm/386436496020...Bk9SR-z7-duOYw
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Old 29th December 2023, 09:54
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Re: Photos German Aircraft

I am always happy to receive replies to my posts. However, this explicitly does not include posts from yourself.


As we see from your post on 24th december on the thread titled Allied interest


http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showth...49458&page=292


the fact that you post links with no further information leads to serious errors on your part.The aforementioned post received in excess of 12,500 views following my notification that it was posted to the wrong board.But no need to thank me,it is the season of giving after all...


Nor is this an isolated example.Please look at the first page of that thread where Snautzer posted information for his links and consider the worth of his posts compared to the worthlessness of yours.Snautzer started an interesting thread you have ruined it with your useless posts. The decline in quality is evident at a glance.I think about what I post whereas clearly you do not.Therefore I think it completely reasonable to reject any input from you on this or any other threads I have started,not just on this board but on any and all.
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Old 31st December 2023, 19:51
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Re: Photos German Aircraft

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a series of photos of German aircraft captioned as being at Posen. To my mind an interesting photo is this one of the single example of the Friedrichshafen FF 6 B.203/14


https://www.ebay.de/itm/364650493194...gAAOSwKodljpeF


and this one of the Albatros Breguet B.50/12


https://www.ebay.de/itm/364650497147...0AAOSwzmVljpjm




An Aviatik ??


https://www.ebay.de/itm/364650713425...kAAOSwnWpljsbE


DFW Mars B.84/13




https://www.ebay.de/itm/364650714190...0AAOSwZo1ljsd0


The seller has a number of other photos from the same location as well as photos from the Baltic region.


https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_dkr=...w=doppeldecker




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Clint

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Old 3rd January 2024, 14:24
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Re: Photos German Aircraft

Hello,


Currently on ebay a series of photos of an LVG C.II unfortunately without distinguishing markings


https://www.ebay.de/itm/276263122825...EAAOSwI4tllUbv


The same seller has photos of a series of photos of a downed RFC F.E.2b


https://www.ebay.de/itm/276263112341...4AAOSw5jRllURX



I'll leave identification of the machine to anyone so inclined.


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Old 4th January 2024, 22:02
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Re: Photos German Aircraft

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of the King of Bavaria during an inspection with an Aviatik C.I in the foreground and next in line a Albatros C.I


https://www.ebay.de/itm/186237792006...0AAOSw9WFllv4V


The same seller has a inverted Albatros B.II


https://www.ebay.de/itm/186237793390...EAAOSwb2tllv~I


Also tonight a Fokker D.VII possibly from a naval unit


https://www.ebay.de/itm/355344108629...sAAOSwHz5llXW9


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