1939: a stunning Bf 109 E-3 flown by... St.G 7 !

[robert]

Perhaps it was from stab/LG2?
StG77 was subordinated to this staff during Polish Campaign.

Regards

Robert

[Marius]

The info appears several times in original documents of StG 77. I have published one picture (code S2+) in my book "Luftwaffe nad Polska 1939 Pt.III Stukaflieger" in 2006.

Regards,

[sidney]

The proof that at least some Bf109s were attached to StG77 shortly before the outbreak of WW2 was also published in Eric Mombeek's Jagdwaffe series of books, Volume 1, Section 3, page 206, the relevant excerpt showing the apparently Bf109D-1 aircraft coded 'S2+..' is attached herewith.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Thanks Sidney! Interesting to see that Bf 109's were indeed operated by St.G. 77; that should help to be open against this pic; I tend to think harrison987 is also correct about the posed aspect of this picture.

All we need now are some other shots of Bf 109's with their St.G. 77 emblem ;-)

Cheers
Marc

[sidney]

You are most welcome, Marc .

I am also not exactly convinced that the photo was actually staged - I just do not see anything particularly spectacular about it worth the effort.

Regards,
Sinisa

[Marius]

Here is an excerpt from an order for II./StG 77 on 1.9.1939.
"... Ich fliege unabhängig mit Me 109.
gez. Graf v.Schönborn".

Regards,

[F19Gladiator]

I would like to draw the attention to Gerhard's post here at LEMB on the subject, saying that the code on the Bf 109 starting with S2 was the pre-war code S2+Mxx used by JFS Werneuchen 1938-39 and had nothing to do with StG.77.

[Falcon]

A photo from the JFS1:
http://www.me109.info/display.php?a=e&fid=19

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi, all.

With regards to Bf 109s operated by St.G.77 - the initial info was related to the fact that Bf 109s are listed as part of the inventory of Stab/St.G.77 from April through June 1941 on the www.ww2.dk site. That was the issue I contested.

These are the reported aircraft inventories for the Stab/St.G.77 for the period in question:

Info from www.ww2.dk:
31.3.41 - 15.4.41 Arad Ju 87B, Bf 109

Strength reports:
29.03.41 3/3 Ju 87B/R, 5/5 Do 17P, 4/4 Bf 110E
05.04.41 3/3 Ju 87B/R, 5/4 Bf 110E
12.04.41 3/3 Ju 87B/R, 6/5 Bf 110

Info from www.ww2.dk:
15.4.41 - 19.4.41 Bijeljina Ju 87B, Bf 109

Strength reports:
19.04.41 3/3 Ju 87B/R, 6/5 Bf 110

Info from www.ww2.dk:
19.4.41 - 5.41 Belgrade-Semlin Ju 87B, Bf 109
5.41 - 6.41 Argos Ju 87B, Bf 109

Strength reports:

26.4.41 4/3 Ju 87B/R, 8/3 Bf 110
3.5.41 4/3 Ju 87B/R, 8/3 Bf 110
10.5.41 4/3 Ju 87B/R, 8/3 Bf 110
17.5.41 3/2 Ju 87B/R, 7/6 Bf 110
24.5.41 3/1 Ju 87B/R, 6/2 Bf 110
31.5.41 3/1 Ju 87B/R, 6/2 Bf 110
7.6.41 3/2 Ju 87B/R, 6/2 Bf 110
14.6.41 3/2 Ju 87B/R, 7/6 Bf 110
21.6.41 3/1 Ju 87B/R, 7/6 Bf 110
28.6.41 3/2 Ju 87B/R, 6/3 Bf 110
5.7.41 3/1 Ju 87B/R, 6/4 Bf 110

There is no evidence that the unit reported having Bf 109's in their inventory from April 1940 through August 1941 (I have just checked my notes on unit strength reports - I have not made notes pre April 1940 for obvious reasons - being Norwegian).

Regards,
Andreas B