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25th May 2016, 22:50
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
So all planes are known?
Probably, we will find a couple of new birds, the hell if in their situation the germans would be able to note all the planes left behind... Rémi 
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25th May 2016, 21:50
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Little history here!
5502 Ju 88 A-4 [9K+AA] III/KG 51 (Luftflotte 4 East) OPS (F) dam by AA fire (15%) at PLQ 3135 [and force landing in enemy territory of Soviet Union] 23.08.1942 (B Obgefr. Günther Heyde and BF Obgefr. Walter Repinsky inj) [Major Freiherr Ernst von Bibra and crew saved by Oblt. Poppenburg in A4 9K+AD (Dierich KG 51)]
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26th May 2016, 16:40
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Are the crew named ?? Concerning the Bf110F-3/5113 from 3.H11, seems commentary pretty long ....
Rémi Andrey I posted you a message !
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27th May 2016, 22:43
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Hello Rémi,
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Best regards, Andrey
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27th May 2016, 13:02
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
S9+BB
Gruppenstab, I./ZG 1 3 September 1942 Emergency landing following hits from ground fire 2 Kms. north-north-east of Malyj.
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30th May 2016, 01:46
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
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This is BB in flight. And this two photos, when it was found by Soviet troops. Any idea of pilot? Last edited by Evgeny Velichko; 22nd May 2021 at 20:57.
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3rd June 2016, 12:40
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Page 3 has 15 entries, and I refer to them by the model etc as written by the Soviets. I have not altered the records to show information from the new source yet:
25. Me 109 G WNr 14160: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146320 26. Me 109 G WNr 14197: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146898 27. Me 109 E-7 U-2 WNr 2675: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142461 28. Ме 109Е-7 WNr 3378: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142395 29. Ме 109Е-4 U-1 WNr 1997: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142475 30. Me 109E-7 WNr 5214: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142397 31. Me 109F-4/Trop WNr 10230: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=145825 32. Me 109G-4 WNr 7620 (error in the type designation- this was an F-4): http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146776 33. Ме 109G WNr 14164: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=148078 34. Me 109F-4/Trop WNr 10258: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146775 35. Me 109G WNr 13404: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146893 36. Ме 109G WNr 14162: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146187 37. Ju 88A-4/Trop WNr 5653: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146990 38. Ju 88C-6 WNr 0360218: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146884 39. Me 109E-7 WNr 5118: Not identified - again an aircraft which should have been a 8./Schl.G.1 kite. Regards, Andreas B
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3rd June 2016, 14:23
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
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3rd June 2016, 15:28
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Re: List from TsAMO of 99 (!) German warplanes and 22 motors captured at the Chir (Tschir) station (Stalingrad area)
Page 4 has 13 entries, and I refer to them by the model etc as written by the Soviets. I have not altered the records to show information from the new source yet:
40. Me 109 G-2 WNr 13434: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146325 http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=145939 http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=143693 41. Hs 123 WNr 944: Not identified 42. Fi 156C-3 WNr 5013: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147986 43. Hs 123 WNr 2250: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142398 44. Ju 88A-4 WNr 3517: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=146306 45. Me 110E-1 WNr 4112: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=147241 46. Fi 156D-1/Trop WNr 5675: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=143777 47. Hs 129 : No identifying information available except from the photograph 48. Ме 109E-7 U-2 WNr 3333: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=142577 This entry must obviously have an error in the WNr: http://www.aviationhistory.no/ref_db...?lossid=135688 49. FW 189: No identifying information. But as all of the aircraft of 3.(H)/12 (aircraft code identifying the unit) reported as lost between 30.06.1942 and 14.08.1942 had personnel injury involved, someone with access to the NVM of the unit might be able to narrow this down (only 5 losses). 50. Hs 123: No identifying information. Aircraft of Schl.G.1. Red Staffel code. Staffel? 51. Hs 123: No identifying information. Aircraft of Schl.G.1. Green Staffel code. Stab II. Gruppe? 52. FW 189 WNr 0044: Not identified based on this information Regards, Andreas B
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