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![]() Concerning the aerial OOB's during the Lvov-Sandomierz operation, Here is the data I collected so far:
1) From wikipedia: " […]The only positive was the presence of the 700 aircraft of Luftflotte IV including the veteran air units of VIII.Fliegerkorps. However, due to the chain of command, Harpe could not directly control the Luftwaffe units without much communication through the Nazi bureaucracy. The Soviet forces under Konev outnumbered the Germans considerably. The 1st Ukrainian Front could muster over 1,200,000 men, 2,050 tanks, 16,000 guns and mortars and over 3,250 aircraft of the VVS. […]" In the book "In der Südwestrichtung" by a soviet Army commander who was involved, it is shown that 1.Ukrainian Front had 2 & 8 VA subordinated. 2) This would mean 2 бак , 1 сак, 3 шак, 3 иак, 6 бад, 9 шад, 12 иад, 1нбад, 3 рап, 2 крап which would be ca. 900bombers incl. 100Po-2 for night, 1100Sturmos, 1200fighters= 3200 planes if one aerial regiment is taken as 25 A/C. Probably it was slightly less bombers and more Sturmos/fighters, but figures fit, so I am content. 3) German VIII. FK had the OOB at the very bottom in June 1944, which contains only 280 A/C (including only 8 fighters ![]() So, questions are: - which other Luftwaffe-units were moved in the area in July? - which planes did the below mentioned VVS-units use? - any details on aerial battles known? VVS-details: 2VA: 4 бак (202, 219, 321 бад), 1 гв. шак (8 и 9 гв. шад, 12 гв. иад), 8 шак (224, 227 шад, 236 иад), 5 иак (8 гв., 256 иад), 10 иак (10 гв., 235 иад), 10 гв. шад, 6 гв. иад, 208 нбад, 98 гв., 50 рап, 387 оапс, 1554, 1555, 1578, 1605, 1613 зенап 8VA: 1 гв. сак (5 и 6 гв. шад, 11 гв. иад), 2 гв. бак (1 и 8 гв., 244 бад), 5 шак (4 гв., 264 шад, 331 иад), 7 иак (9 гв., 205, 304 иад), 8 рап, 100 крап, 678 трап 1254, 1561, 1577, 1603 зенап which is altogether Lw-details: Fernaufklärer: 2. (F) / 11 Jasionka 9 Ju 88 2. (F) / 100 Lublin 7 Ju 188 Nahaufklärer: Stab / NAGr. 2 Strunybaby 5 Bf 109 1. / NAGr. 2 Stry 11 Bf 109 2. / NAGr. 2 Strunybaby 13 Bf 109 Schlachtflieger: Stab IV. (Pz) / SG 9 Lysiatycze 6 Hs 129 12. (Pz) / SG 9 Stry Hs 129 13. (Pz) / SG 9 Lysiatycze 16 Hs 129 Stab / SG 77 Jasionka in Umrüstung I. / SG 77 Jasionka in Umrüstung II. / SG 77 Lemberg 33 Fw 190 III. / SG 77 Cuniow 42 JJu 87 10. (Pz) / SG 77 Starzawa 19 Ju 87 Ung.S.St. 102/1 Cuniow 11 Nachtschlacht: Stab / NSGr. 4 Hordinia 4 Go 145 1. / NSGr. 4 Hordinia 28 Go 145 Bomber: 14. (Eis) / KG 27 Krosno 15 He 111 Fliegerführer 102 Ungarn - Labunia Nahaufklärer: Ung.N.A.St. 102/1 Labunia 8 (I guess Fw189) 7. / NAGr. 32 Labunia 11 Bf 109, Fw 190 Jäger: Ung.JSt. 102/1 Zamocz 8 Bomber: Ung.KSt. 102/1 Klemensowa 5 Schnellbomber: Ung.SKSt. 12 (I guess Me410) |
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