engine recovered, need info :)

[JG53_Volto]

Originally Posted by Tomislav Haramincic

Do you know a more precise date of the crash?

I'd like it!!!
According to the eyewitness the plane crashed between June and July 1944..Lapse of time is too wide,unlikely, i think Fabio RAF can get more news.
Ah,the crash site is Bondeno near Ferrara,but in june and July 44 a lot of planes were shooted down in that zone...

EDIT:eyewitness said June-July,but in that period no G6U4s were deployed in Italy.Tomorrow,when I back home, I'll check the Beale-D'Amico-Valentini's book "Air War Italy 1944-45" for accuracy.
Regards
Alessandro

[Fabio RAF]

Hi all

for witness, after 60 years, is difficult remember a precise date...unfortunately, the reports that we find in the books, in the sites, they almost always writes "near Ferrara" ... "near" it is also 50/60 km of distance.
Friends... we thank you as for your answer, when we will have news, we write here.

Best Regards from Romagna Air Finders

Fabio

[Fabio RAF]

other detail

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by JG53_Volto

eyewitness said June-July,but in that period no G6U4s were deployed in Italy.Tomorrow,when I back home, I'll check the Beale-D'Amico-Valentini's book "Air War Italy 1944-45" for accuracy.
Regards
Alessandro

I'll save you the trouble! According to our book, Stab and II./JG 77 had 19 G-6/U4 on strength on 31 August 1944.

The ANR was using the type by December (and probably earlier).

[JG53_Volto]

Thank you Nick!
Now,we must identify the plane,but I'm afraid we haven't enough pieces...but the engine!

Alessandro

[JG53_Volto]

Last clue:


It's perfectly readable MANS...what is it? ,what's it means?

Alessandro

[veltro]

According to the files I own concerning the losses of JG 4, JG 53 and JG 77 indicating Ferrara and sorrounding areas as the point of fall of the aircraft, these are the data I found:

25.03.1944 - Ferrara - 3./JG 4 - W.Nr. 162522 - white 1 - Lt. Engelbert Beckers (KIA)
30.04.1944 - Ferrara (15km S.) - 2./JG 4 - W.Nr. 162995 - black 12 - Fw. Wilhelm Becker (WIA)
30.04.1944 - Ferrara - 2./JG 4 - W.Nr. 18567 - black 3 - U. Waldow Zeuner (WIA)
12.05.1944 - Pomposa (FE) - 2./JG 77 - W.Nr. 26057 - red 16 - Uffz. Karl Heinz Schmincke (KIA) - recovered
13.05.1944 - Pomposa(FE) - 1./JG 77 - W.Nr. 162381 - white 15 - Uffz. Hanz Forler (WIA) - recovered
23.05.1944 - NW Ferrara - 5./JG 77 - W.Nr. 163172 - black 15 - Uffz. Willi Schulze (KIA)
05.06.1944 - Ferrara - 5./JG 77 - W.Nr. 163167 - black 8 - Uffz. Rolf Berndt (WIA)
29.06.1944 - Ferrara - 1,/JG 77 - W.Nr. 163201 - white 9 - Lt. Richard Heller (KIA)
12.07.1944 - Ferrara - 6./JG 77 - W.Nr. 441320 - ? - Fw. Albert Ullrich (WIA)

Obviously, this cannot exclude other losses which were reported with incorrect fall areas or wrong names, but it is a start somehow.

Hope this helps.

[Fabio RAF]

Many thanks Ferdinando, a precious help always
Saluti

Fabio

[Fabio RAF]

Uffz. karl Heinz Schminke and Uff. Hans Forler are recovered.