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Old 28th October 2024, 18:13
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1. B-17F 42-38078 "Sweet Pea / Mammy Yokum II" 429 / 2BG, damaged over Hungary 21 Sept. 44 but returned to Amendola.
2. B-24J 42-73427 "Come and get it" 64 /43BG /Fifth AF probably on N. Guinea. White diagonal stripe on tail.

3. B-24J 42-100215 "Ruptured Falcon" 403 /43BG; white rudder - fin tip with "215" on tail.
4-5. P-39Q 44-2485 assigned to USSR but crashed on ferry flight to Alaska to be handed-over on 6 Dec.43; sank in Carpenter Lake in N. Canada but raised 20 July 1990 for restoration. White stars replaced by red.


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Old 28th October 2024, 18:36
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Old 28th October 2024, 22:28
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1. B-17F 42-38078 "Sweet Pea / Mammy Yokum II" 429 / 2BG, damaged over Hungary 21 Sept. 44 but returned to Amendola.
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Surely this was a B-17G?

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Old 29th October 2024, 03:11
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Hi stig,

From JB's lists -
Douglas-Long Beach B-17G-25-DL Fortress.
38078 delivered Denver Dec 6, 1943, Savannah Dec 23, 1943. Assigned to 347th BS, 99th BG Jan 7, 1944.
Transferred to 429th BS, 2nd BG at Amendola Mar 28, 1944. Named "Sweet Pea". Suffered direct hit by flak Sep 21, 1944 on mission
to Debreczen, Hungary, killing 2 crewmen and wounding two. Pilot was able to bring it home and landed
safely at home base at Amendola, Italy. Aircraft was repaired and flew again, ending its career as a
hack aircraft. FortLog has the plane crashlanding at Bari, Italy Jun 1, 1945 and being destroyed by fire

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42-38078 Del Denver 6/12/43; Savannah 23/12/43; ass 347BS/99BG 7/1/44; {14m} tran 429BS/2BG
Amendola 28/3/44; severe b/d Debreczen 21/9/44 w/Guy Miller, cp-Tom Rybovich, n-Theo Davich, b-Bob
Mullen, ettg-Tony Ferrera{wia}, ro-Bill Stueck, wg-Jim McGuire, ?? (8RTD); wg-Jim Totty, tg-Elmer Buss
(2KIA); c/l base and broke in half, then after repair aircraft was flown again by Miller 1/12/44; flown w/Bill
Morton 1/6/45 c/l Bari, Italy, destroyed by fire. SWEET PEA.
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Old 29th October 2024, 13:05
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Thanks Stig. Lost my concentration again. She has some interesting markings, carried over from 99BG; hollow diamond (hence "Diamondbacks") then "Y" in a square with "3" on white disc, the 3rd Group in the 5th Wing. Then 429BS in 2BG - white rudder with Insignia Blue band (reversed on unpainted aircraft) plus half arrow, most likely a reference to their insignia, an Indian with bow and arrow. A typical mix of Group markings in the Fifteenth including pre-Nov. 43 Twelfth AF symbols.


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Thanks Faenor. You may be interested in this map of the Big Week targets, copied from an Intelligence Dept. map dated April. On the original one 3 are crossed-off as not being re-built. Also a page from the MACR noting her markings.
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big-week by Nicholas King, on Flickr


https://catalog.archives.gov/id/90926980?objectPage=22
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Shown abandoned at Dreux.
Many photos of these aircraft are in the Stratus CR.714 opus.
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