Friendly fire WWII

[Juha]

Hello Brian
are You interested in a case of “friendly” bomb hits on a plane in same formation. The plane was not lost but the fastest man to obey pilot’s bale out order became a PoW. To me it is a little different to “friendly” fire cases which almost all were results of mistaken identity.

Juha

[Brian]

Yes please, Juha!

Cheers
Brian

[Fairlop]

Brian,

11th November 1944 brought an unfortunate case when the 43 Sqn were set upon by six USAAF Mustangs. Leading six Spitfires from No.43 Sqn on an area cover over Padua, the WinCo W/C Ernie Wootton DFC found his a/c being bounced by the P-51. Splitting the formation up, he ordered "Don´t shoot" as it became a case of every man for himself in a game of survival.
Fortunately, the unidentified Mustangs broke off the attack, but not before the Spitfires flown by F/Ls Creed and Cummings had been badly shot up. Creed had managed to c/l PV667 on the aerodrome at Rimini not badly hurt, but Cummings´ Spitfire PT585, was seen to going into a dive and it was later learned that he had been killed.

Regards,
Michal

[Jan Hermkens]

Hello Brian,

I am new here, and I am a fanatic R(adio) C(ontrolleed) scale modeller, specialy Warbirds.
Most of my Warbirds I have build from own plan, and was 6x European Star Cup Champion.

- 4x with B-17 (scale 1:8, span 4 meter, engines: 4x fourstroke 7,5cm3).

- 2x with P-61 (scale 1:6,6,span 3,10 meter. 2x fourstroke V-twin 40cm3.)

-Runner-Up with Short Sunderland(1:10,span 3,45m.4x twostroke 7,5cm3)

Perhaps it has been already posted here, but a P-61 did shoot down a
B-29 at June 1. 1945.

regards,
Jan, the flying Dutchman from the Netherlands.



B-17 Flying Fortress




P-61 Black Widow




Short Sunderland flying Boat





for more see my homepage www.home.versatel.nl/jan.hermkens

[Brian]

Thanks Michal and Jan (fantastic site) but I do have these incidents already recorded.


Cheers
Brian

[Fairlop]

Brian,

Do you need details about attack of the 312 Sqn Hurricanes on the 29 Sqn Blenheims on 13/10/1940 ?

Regards,
Michal

[Pawel Burchard]

There are some documented cases when German Stukas and bombers hit German ground troops during the so called battle of Kursk. Does it count?

regards,
Pawel

[Brian]

Yes thanks Michal I have details.

Pawel -are you able to provide details etc please?

Cheers
Brian

[Pawel Burchard]

Brian, of documented cases I am aware of - there is one incident of III./K.G. 55 dropping on own troops with detailed losses etc. from ground unit reports, one of Stukas knocking out SPW from Leibstandarte and Schlachtflieger damaging German armoured train. Will provide further details when back at home

regards,
Pawel

[Pawel Burchard]

6/8/1943 T314-201-000441
Eisb.Pz.Zug 62 wurde am Abend des 6/8 mehrmals von eigenen Jagdflugzeugen auf Bhf. Solotschew angegriffen, dabei Verwundete und Ausfall eines Geschützes.

In this case I presume the a/c involved could be Fw 190 of Sch.G. 1 from a/f in Charkow. Although I have no 100% proof.


11/7/1943
1310 bei der Stuka-Unterstützung (Panzergruppe LSAH) auf die Swch. Oktjabrskij versursachen eigene Bomben den Verlust eines SPW mit Besatzung, obwohl der Stuka-Leitoffizier im SPW des Btl.Kdr. mitfuhr. / Qu. Geschichte LSAH
Tagesmeldung LSAH - eigene Bomben auf SPW-Btl. verursachten Verluste.

The unfortunate Stukas were probably from St.G. 77, there could be only one other Stuka unit in question - St.G. 2, but its operations on that day are reasonably well covered.

As for the 3rd incident I have to do some work on it to compile the information from several sources, and I am currently preoccupied taking care for my two baby dogs