Late war Bf 109 pictures source

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by unikum

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Wehrmacht-Fot...item19d5643e5b

Many thanks Unikum!
Marc

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[Marc-André Haldimann]

Hallo Carl,

Very interesting; with the other photo, obviously taken at the same time, the contrast is event stronger between the RLM 76 tailplane and the blue fuselage... As for the overall RLM 76 color mentioned , I was thinking of those Erla built Bf 109 G-6 which were meant to become "Höhenjägern" and left Erla in this overall light gray tone for Erla VII at Antwerpen in order to have their DB 605/AS fitted and then be taken on charge by 2./JG 3, like exemplified by "Schwarze 27", among others:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625486305536
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625486305536

As for the "normal process", the picture of W.Nr. 33 085 is most informative indeed (Prien and Rodeike 1995, p. 118).... Thanks Carl!

Finally, it is interesting to see such a variety of blue hues (RLM 65, RLM 76, RLM 78 and the currently much publicized RLM 83 which we know - thanks to Rasmussen - was not on the paint inventory of Erla). I never noticed this until now.

Thanks again, Carl
Marc

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Many thanks Unikum!

I saw them on LEMB this morning, and they are already uploaded. A very interesting sequence of photographs I detailed a bit in this LEMB thread.
http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...opic=16585&hl=

Former property of Heinz Riedinger, some of them were already posted by Falcon in his excellent messerschmitt109.de site. This much more complete serie, taken in January 1945 at Wertheim (remember the Bodenwöhr Bf 109 K-4 thread in November 2008?) shows clearly the W.Nr. of Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. 785 102, rebuilt by Fiesler Werke as a Bf 109 G-14; it has been or will be test flown (BAL Abnahme Flug) by Fiesler pilot Anton Riedinger.

Another Bf 109 G-14 can be seen and a Bf 109 G-6 too with Riedinger getting out of it's cockpit (fleece lined flight jacket).

W.Nr. 785 102 is exceptionally interesting as it exemplifies the "rebuild at all costs" policy of the German war industry at that time:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

It is a perfect match for Bf 109 G-6 W.Nr. 163 824, conserved in Canberra, which was similarly rebuilt and still sports nowadays the propeller of W.Nr.441 039... and it's original patchwork camouflage.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57625360814585
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...7625360814585/

The last pic show an Erla built Bf 109 G-6 which Stkz "VP+??" indicates a W.Nr 410 847 - 410 896, 411 058 - 411 064, 411 071 or 411 097 - 411 117 batch machine (source: LEMB Stkz database).

Thanks again Unikum, I appreciate your help.
Marc

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

This much more complete serie, taken in January 1945 at Wertheim (remember the Bodenwöhr Bf 109 K-4 thread in November 2008?) shows clearly the W.Nr. of Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. 785 102, rebuilt by Fiesler Werke as a Bf 109 G-14; it has been or will be test flown (BAL Abnahme Flug) by Fiesler pilot Anton Riedinger.

Maybe my copy of his logbook Nr.16 is incomplete but I couldn't find any W.Nr. 785102 between 28.11.1944 - 23.03.1945 (flight number 1521 - 1574).

Best regards
Rasmussen

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by Rasmussen

Maybe my copy of his logbook Nr.16 is incomplete but I couldn't find any W.Nr. 785102 between 28.11.1944 - 23.03.1945 (flight number 1521 - 1574).

Best regards
Rasmussen

Hallo Rasmussen!

Maybe he didn't test fly W.Nr. 785102; the only sure fact is that he was photographed in front of it... and that this particular plane was W.Nr. 785102.

MfG
Marc

[Oberst]

Actually, the Riedinger set machine which W.Nr. is to be read is 785'192. The upper part of the 7 is faintly visible above the hatted onlooker 's shoulder, whilst the 8 is partly blotted out by the man's shoulder, a snowflake doing the trick to transform the 9 into a pseudo 0...
This machine is thus a Regensburg built Bf 109 G-14, W.Nr. 785 192, as said depicted by Anton Riedinger, at the RLM Abnahme, Wertheim, in January 1945.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Originally Posted by Oberst

Actually, the Riedinger set machine which W.Nr. is to be read is 785'192. The upper part of the 7 is faintly visible above the hatted onlooker 's shoulder, whilst the 8 is partly blotted out by the man's shoulder, a snowflake doing the trick to transform the 9 into a pseudo 0...
This machine is thus a Regensburg built Bf 109 G-14, W.Nr. 785 192, as said depicted by Anton Riedinger, at the RLM Abnahme, Wertheim, in January 1945.

Hallo Oberst,

The quality of the provided pics are much better the the ones known before. If you check the following attachments of Unikum, you can see on this one the two first digits 78:
http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/attach...8&d=1348667671

and on this one five out of the six digits; the fifth is clearly a "0"
http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/fo...ttach_id=40803

Cheers
Marc

[Oberst]

If thats the case then I don't think theres '7' in front at all. '8' Looks more like nine and could very well be Gyor built Me109G-6/Y.
Not saying for sure, but possibilty.