French WW2 decimal score aces

[knusel]

...the new Clostermann article by Christophe Cony seems to indicate that Clostermann didn't score any shared aerial kills at all (?)

Michael

[rof120]

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rof120

[Alfred.MONZAT]

Originally Posted by knusel

...the new Clostermann article by Christophe Cony seems to indicate that Clostermann didn't score any shared aerial kills at all (?)

Indeed, only shared ground victories according to Avions' article.

[knusel]

Good morning Gentlemen,

I just learned from Christophe Cony's Clostermann article that Bernard Dupérier's real name was Bernard Sternberg de Armella (see post 1).

Cheers,

Michael

[knusel]

Good morning Gentlemen,

I've had a very good time working through Christophe Cony's excellent Pierre Clostermann article in AVIONS.
It provides a vivid and detailed description of his life, many appealing photos and aircraft profiles as well as a list of 50 claims, 14 of which are confirmed destroyed in the air (all individual).

The following kills from older sources were omitted, possibly because the author has found out that they are not valid:
28.03.1945 He111 DES (1/2) confirmed victory in Public Offical Record archives (Ju88?)
05.04.1944 Bf109 DES (1/2) confirmed victory in Public Offical Record archives
05.04.1944 Bf109 DES (1/2) confirmed victory in Public Offical Record archives
05.04.1945 Ju88 DES confirmed victory in Public Offical Record archives
20.04.1945 Ju290 DES (1/2) admitted as confirmed with official citation by French Air Force
03.05.1945 Ju252 DES on take off, confirmed victory in Public Offical Record archives (Ju52?)
03.05.1945 Bf109 DES (1/2) shared with John Irvin Bay Adams
03.05.1945 Bf109 DES (1/2) shared with John Irvin Bay Adams (Fw190?)
no date Fw190 DES (1/2 or 1/4)
no date Fw190 DES (1/2 or 1/4)
no date Fw190 DES (1/2 or 1/4)
no date Fw190 DES (1/2 or 1/4)
no date Fw190 DES (1/2 or 1/4)
no date Fw190 DES (1/2 or 1/4)
no date Fw190 DES (1/2 or 1/4)
no date Fw190 DES (1/2 or 1/4)

Cheers,

Michael

[knusel]

Pierre Le Gloan is unique in having become a full ace on two opposing sides of a war, respectively, isn't he ?

[Bertrand H]

No ; check Emile "Christian" LEBLANC, Robert HUVET, Michel MADON, Georges PISSOTTE, Marcel ROUQUETTE, Marcel STEUNOU, Georges BLANK etc....

[knusel]

What I wanted to say was that Pierre Le Gloan scored 5 full kills for one side and then 5 full kills for the other side.
None of the guys you mentioned scored 5 Vichy kills when shared kills are counted as decimals.
However Le Gloan is not unique anyway because Constantin Rosariu and Constantin Cantacuzino scored five times before and after changing sides.
http://www.igleize.fr/aces/ww2roma.htm

Le Gloan died when he tried an emergency landing without dropping his belly tank.
Is it possible to assume if the failed release of it was due to a technical error or if he simply forgot it ?

[knusel]

Did any Frenchman ever surpass the two kills the Caudron C.714 that the Polish pilots Jerzy Czerniak, Tadeusz Czerwinski & Aleksy Zukowski scored each ?

[knusel]

Does anybody know how many kills the Armée de l'Air scored in WW2 ?