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Old 21st May 2020, 15:24
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Re: Photo Farman

Hello,


Currently on ebay a early Farman aircraft of tractor design named by the seller a Short Farman at:


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EARLY-AIR...0AAOSwRrJexmwP


This one has me stumped.Does anyone know the company designation of this machine and anything of its history?


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Old 21st May 2020, 16:22
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Re: Photo Farman

Clint

It is a design called Farman David (as opposite to the Goliath)
Type number was FF 65 and should not be confused with the F 65 or F 65bis.

I also believe what the flipside is saying is Sport Farman, but that is not easy to interpret with such "p's"

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Old 21st May 2020, 16:39
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Re: Photo Farman

Hello
This plane is related to the ace Edmond Pillon, chief pilot by Farman after the war. A lot of informations upon Pillon here (in French), with other photos :
http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...ond_Pillon.htm
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Old 21st May 2020, 18:46
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Re: Photo Farman

Stig,


Thanks for the initial id, I was looking in totally the wrong area. Perhaps if I'd only read the back more carefully Just after I'd said in the Bristol thread that I wouldn't be linking to any of that sellers post war and civilian aircraft. Nought for two as our American cousins say.


Jean,


Thanks very much for the interesting link. Again, if only I 'd paid sufficient attention to Pillon's name . This is the second photo I've posted after the one in the Short aircraft thread, that I could have found on albindenis had I only known it.


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Old 24th May 2020, 22:23
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Re: Photo Farman

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Currently on ebay is a photo of two damaged Farman MF.11s at:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Photo-franca...EAAOSwcp9exg~N


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Old 26th May 2020, 12:36
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Re: Photo Farman

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a number of photos of early Farman types operated by the RFC as follows:


Farman HF.20 Serial 286



https://www.ebay.fr/itm/RPPC-AVIATIO...wAAOSwOINezMyZ


Farman MF.7 Serial 207



https://www.ebay.it/itm/Early-1900s-...4AAOSwuaJey8fs



Farman MF.7 Serial 217


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1900s-Joh...wAAOSwnEFexqCz


Farman MF.7 Captioned as 402, but 403?


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/RPPC-AVIATIO...oAAOSwSRVey31h


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Old 26th May 2020, 17:46
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Re: Photo Farman

Clint

I am a bit suspicious about the Longhorn labelled 402 (and as you know that number belonged to a Short).
I can't see any trace of any serial number on this aircraft and believe it actually is a civil one...

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Old 26th May 2020, 17:51
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Re: Photo Farman

Stig,


Yes, that is why I speculated on 403. But you may very well be correct an it is neither. It just seemed an odd thing for the individual writing on rthe postcard at the time to write, leading me to speculate, highly possibly incorrectly that 403 was meant. ut I agree really unknowable anfd I just posted it for the sake of completeness. As a precaution I shall scourge myself for possibly having posted a civilian aircraft



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Old 26th May 2020, 17:58
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Re: Photo Farman

Yes it might be 403 Clint, but then it is a bit strange no serial number is present on the aircraft.

This was also before any censorship had been invented by the militaries, so I think we can discard that as well.

I browsed around a bit before this photo popped up and there was at least one other photo where the same photographer had used three digits for some reason, again on a 'blank' aircraft (think it was in the 300 range). Of course I am unable to locate it again....

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Old 27th May 2020, 10:30
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Re: Photo Farman

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Farman MF.11 MF.181,unusually for a french operated aircraft with the serial on the fuselage at:


https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...321377549.html


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