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Old 4th October 2009, 10:51
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Nick, this line caught my eye.

Any idea why the card index would have been destroyed? Surely not for security reasons.
Exactly that, I'm afraid. At least according to all the accounts of the survivors. And by demolishing the Colossus computers our leaders unwittingly threw away a whole postwar industry and had to start again a few years later.
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At my last stay at NA, I scanned (with a camera) following files
AIR40/2687 and AIR40/2697, both mentioned at Nick Beales page: http://www.ghostbombers.com/various/...tra_3.html#top

I have organized each of them as a singel pdf. file.

Anyone care for a copy?

Olve Dybvig
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I downloaded 2687 last night and did a bit of browsing in the document this morning. IMHO it is one of the most valuable documents on the last six month of the Luftwaffe I have seen for years, and it could lead to scores of posts and re-writing of old ones. Just to give one example: The NJGs are ordered to transfer a number of crews to JGs "in order to provide navigational assistance" on 4 December 1944, I wonder what bells were ringing in the allied intel community. Events, which have been discussed as possible myths are now confirmed. I can only recommend that you take Olve up on his kind offer.
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

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At my last stay at NA, I scanned (with a camera) following files
AIR40/2687 and AIR40/2697, both mentioned at Nick Beales page: http://www.ghostbombers.com/various/...tra_3.html#top

I have organized each of them as a singel pdf. file.

Anyone care for a copy?

Olve Dybvig
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Old 7th October 2009, 05:20
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

The last months of the Luftwaffe are a chasm of lack of knowledge. So, yes, I would also like a copy of your material, Olve. And, thank you for making this material available to us.
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Good morning Olve, i would also like a copy if possible.

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Hello Olve,

If anything concerning training units, I should be interested too.
Thanks.
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

Perhaps I did not read all detail but how can I can I get access to this documents. Do I hve to visit a Military Archive?

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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

Rolf, many of the Ultra decrypts discussed here are held at The National Archives, Kew, southwest London.

If you follow the link below to my website and go to the SAMPLEs page, you will find a couple of examples.

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… many of the Ultra decrypts discussed here are held at The National Archives, Kew, southwest London.
All of the ones I wrote about are at the National Archives.
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Thanks a lot for the prompt reply.

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