Photos 3-9

[Roger Gaemperle]

Hi Fernando,

It was ended by the seller prematurely as he probably got a direct offer which was high enough to convince him to stop the auction. So, it probably didn't go for little money..... :-(

Regards
Roger Gaemperle

[Micke D]

Hi guys!

So to summarize this I would personally say/guess that:

1. The plane with R4M rockets in Experten Decals No 3 is a D-9.
2. "White 57" is possibly a D-11, without the outer wing MK 108s. It could have been marked "White <57", maybe as a replacement for the well known bellylanded "White <57" from Verbandsführershule des General der Jagdflieger..
3. Both planes are most likely photographed at the same place, possibly Bad Wörishofen.
4. Both planes could probably have belonged to Verbandsführershule des General der Jagdflieger.

/Micke D

[cproyston]

Micke D,

Looking over your list, here's my opinion:

1. Agree
2. Possibly a D-11 (although I'm more inclined to think it's a D-9 - that cowl just doesn't look flat enough for me!) - not sure I agree about the replacement for white 57> theory, that said I don't know what other unit's aircraft it could be!!
3. Agree
4. Cautiously agree!

Overall though, I agree with Eric, there's just not enough evidence to come to any concrete or, for that matter, semi-firm conclusions. However, it's still one of the most interesting Fw 190D photos I've ever seen!!

Regards,
Chris

[focusfocus]

MODELDAD
directive of the luftwaffe has to leave of november 1942:all the plane glancing through the ex-zone free,have to concern wings and fuselage of the white bands(strips) understood included.
there are photos of fw.190 of II/JG.2 in tranzit for tunisia with bands.

[Modeldad]

Focusfocus:

Glad I happen to check back. Thanks for that. I've not seen aircraft in that marking.

[John Beaman]

Originally Posted by Modeldad

Focusfocus:

Glad I happen to check back. Thanks for that. I've not seen aircraft in that marking.

Steven:

Look on page 37 of Arthy and Jessen's Fw 190 in North Africa and page 96 of Weal's Jagdgeswader 2 'Richthofen. Both photos are also in other publications as well.

[kormoran]

Originally Posted by Roger Gaemperle

It was ended by the seller prematurely as he probably got a direct offer which was high enough
to convince him to stop the auction. So, it probably didn't go for little money..... :-(

Hi Roger,

it's absolutely naive to think that a photo that is discussed at this board
goes for little money! Or did anybody on TOCH thought that he/she
get a chance to win an interesting photo, especially a D-9 or D-11 !!!!
for only some dollars? Let's hope that a true interested Luftwaffe
enthusiast and expert bought it to publish it in future

Kind regards,
Günter.

[PhilippeDM]

Folks,

A very hearty thank you for your responses concerning the Fw 190 D and other. It is fantastic to see the community live and answer questions with their knowledge...

[Eric Larger]

Philippe

Knowledge for itself is nothing .

Knowledge get its true value when it is shared and explained to others .

Eric

[Modeldad]

John, thanks for the direction.. I found it.

The white is a bit further out, but perhaps any aircraft operating in the South of France.