Friendly fire WWII

[Brian]

Thanks for that Nokose - I had forgotten that incident - and I was one of the main authors!!

Cheers
Brian (aka B. Cull)

[Juha]

Hello Brian
I haven’t had time yet to search the German book from my attic but by chance came across following friendly fire cases

26 March 1942 a Pe-3 from 95. AP was shot down by a Hurricane from 122. IAD . Kpt. F. G. Kristjakov and St.lt. I. A. Gontsarov both killed
7 Aug 1942 a Yak-1 from 20. IAP was shot down by a I-16 near Vajenka 1 a/f, pilot I. S. Fomin was killed

Source: Hannu Valtonen: Luftwaffen Pohjoinen Sivusta

HTH
Juha

[Brian]

Super stuff, Juha, many thanks.

Cheers
Brian

[Juha]

BTW Brian, in Dénes Bernád’s et al very good From Barbarossa to Odessa Vol. 1, which is in any case well worth of its price, there are a number of “friedly fire” cases.

Juha

[Csaba B. Stenge]

Originally Posted by NUPPOL

2 instances:
Reportably two of KG 200 aircraft-B-17 "Punchboard" #42-39974 and B-24 "Sunshine" #42-52106 were lost to German AA 6 April 1945
In Edward Jablonski's "Airwar" Ernest Shipman 31stFG/307th Figther Sq {P-51 Pilot} shot down by P-38 july 30.1944 {Reference only}

It is correct, Shipman's Mustang was shot down by a P-38 over Hungary, the pilot baled out and was taken POW (Shipman was an ace, after the war he become an actor)

My "Ace of Hearts" Squadron history book contains 5 air to air friendly fire accidents in details from summer, 1941 over the Soviet Union (and one ground to air as well)

[Brian]

Thanks for the info, Juha, I have just ordered a copy of Denes Bernad's book.

Csaba - I can't find your 'Aces of Hearts' on Amazon.uk or Amazon.com
Is it in English? If not, perhaps you will kindly provide details of the friendly fire incidents you indicate.

Cheers
Brian

[Csaba B. Stenge]

Originally Posted by Brian

Thanks for the info, Juha, I have just ordered a copy of Denes Bernad's book.

Csaba - I can't find your 'Aces of Hearts' on Amazon.uk or Amazon.com
Is it in English? If not, perhaps you will kindly provide details of the friendly fire incidents you indicate.

Cheers
Brian

Brian,

I sent you a pm.

See you soon,

Csaba

[Juha]

Hello Brian
on 25 Dec 1939 SLt Storozhakov from 26 IAP claimed a Gamecock near Lake Suvanto in Karelian Isthmus. Next day it proved out that the downed Gamecock was in fact an I-15bis from 59 IAB, which had made a forced landing in territory occupied by Soviet forces. On the same mission the formation of 8 I-16s also shot at an R-5.

Source: Keskinen - Partonen - Stenman Suomen Ilmavoimat Finnish Air Force 1928 – 40

Juha

[Brian]

Hi Juha

Excellent - that's another beer I owe you! Keep 'em coming!

Cheers
Brian

[PUFF OF SMOKE]

Brian, I Have Been Doing Research On RCAF 414 Over The Last Few Years. My Father Was S/L In 43 And 44. I Had The Orb For 41-45 At One Point. I Recall Reading About A Friendly Fire Dogfight The Resulted In Two Pilots ( RAF And RCAF) Being Killed And The Other Two Wingman Being Witnesses At The Subsequent Inquiry. In Reviewing The Copies Of The ORB Pages That I Retained I Can't Seem To Find It. Has Anyone Told You About This Incident ?
Ron