eBAy: Captured german planes

[Karoband]

Originally Posted by RudiS

https://www.ebay.com/itm/37366723597...AAAOSwreVhBga0

Is this the kenn of a technical school?

http://forum.12oclockhigh.net/showthread.php?t=43198

[spektor]

Originally Posted by RudiS

https://www.ebay.com/itm/37366723597...AAAOSwreVhBga0

Hi.

The stripped fuselage in the foreground in the photo is a teaching aid for aircraft mechanics.

[Nick Beale]

Re post #4663, I don't remember seeing that rack under the outer wing on other Ju 88's. Was it a standard conversion?

[Marcel van Heijkop]

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

Re post #4663, I don't remember seeing that rack under the outer wing on other Ju 88's. Was it a standard conversion?

I have only seen it before as attachment point for the outer external fuel tank of the "Eisenhammer configuration" on some Ju 88 S-3s of I./KG66 in March 1945. No idea if this configuration was already an existing (sleeping) conversion and included in the Ju 88 drawings (and just waiting to be activated) or that it was specifically designed at the last moment for Unternehmen Eisenhammer and/or I./KG66's Ju 88 S-3s...

Does anybody know if recce Ju 88s carried external tanks at this position?..

Regards,

Marcel

[jim norton]

Originally Posted by Marcel van Heijkop

I have only seen it before as attachment point for the outer external fuel tank of the "Eisenhammer configuration" on some Ju 88 S-3s of I./KG66 in March 1945. No idea if this configuration was already an existing (sleeping) conversion and included in the Ju 88 drawings (and just waiting to be activated) or that it was specifically designed at the last moment for Unternehmen Eisenhammer and/or I./KG66's Ju 88 S-3s...

Does anybody know if recce Ju 88s carried external tanks at this position?..

Regards,

Marcel

hi marcel,
maybe this ju88 also belongs to II./LG 1. these ju88 were also fitted with ETC under the wings (like L1+BM and others)...
all the best
jim

[ChristianK]

It's hard to tell, but likely. It is unclear, however, in which way these markings had been allocated to the different schools.

Most often, TS+MB is allocated to Fliegertechnische Schule 3 in München (because a lot of TS+MB-marked planes were captured there).

These Fw 190s marked TS+MA are said to have been captured at Bayreuth-Bindlach. But there was no Fliegertechnische Schule stationed in Bayreuth. Also, at least one of the Fw 190s in the photos up there is clearly not marked TS+MA, but rather also TS+MB (or +MR, +MD, +MP?).

To complicate matters even further, photos from Fassberg at the war's end show at least one of the planes from Fliegertechnische Schule 2 marked "FTS", which stands for Fliegertechnische Schule I guess - and does not fit in with the TS+Mx markings practice. So yes, TS+Mx indicates some school, but there are many uncertainties about further details..

[Matolion]

Originally Posted by ChristianK

It's hard to tell, but likely. It is unclear, however, in which way these markings had been allocated to the different schools.

Most often, TS+MB is allocated to Fliegertechnische Schule 3 in München (because a lot of TS+MB-marked planes were captured there).

These Fw 190s marked TS+MA are said to have been captured at Bayreuth-Bindlach. But there was no Fliegertechnische Schule stationed in Bayreuth. Also, at least one of the Fw 190s in the photos up there is clearly not marked TS+MA, but rather also TS+MB (or +MR, +MD, +MP?).

To complicate matters even further, photos from Fassberg at the war's end show at least one of the planes from Fliegertechnische Schule 2 marked "FTS", which stands for Fliegertechnische Schule I guess - and does not fit in with the TS+Mx markings practice. So yes, TS+Mx indicates some school, but there are many uncertainties about further details..

Why do you think there was no Fliegertechnische Schule in Bayreuth-Bindlach?
There was Fliegertechnische Schule 6 (1940 – Apr 45)
https://www.ww2.dk/Airfields%20-%20Germany%20[1937%20Borders].pdf

[ChristianK]

Originally Posted by Matolion

Why do you think there was no Fliegertechnische Schule in Bayreuth-Bindlach?
There was Fliegertechnische Schule 6 (1940 – Apr 45)
https://www.ww2.dk/Airfields%20-%20Germany%20[1937%20Borders].pdf

Oops, I actually missed that - you are absolutely correct, sorry.

[Tom Willis]

It has been reported as belonging to Technische Shule 3 at Schleissheim (near to Munchen-Oberwiesenfeld). Possibly I would think that the W/Nr was placed close to the cockpit for clarification for ground crews working on the aircraft. I have not seen this anywhere else so clearly was locally based.
However, I have seen something like this used on RAF aircraft being shipped to Supply Depots in France (circa early/mid 1940) possibly for shipment back to UK for repairs. Most fuselages had the Type of aircraft, some with dates painted close to the cockpits areas.

[RudiS]

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