What is the "Holy Grail" of Luftwaffe Research

[Hans Mcilveen]

Hi JVM,

You are probably right that Gael was meant. And then it can't be a TGr 30 Heinkel in an Atlantic fortress. Pity.
Perhaps sometime before that. Thank you for solving that little mystery.

Hans

[Sergio Luis dos Santos]

Originally Posted by Snautzer

I have seen a fw58 with radar, prob a school plane, this is what you are looking for ?

No... the ones with the Schräge Musik at NJG 100 that flew same time as the Fw 189 NF.

[PhilippeDM]

What about that mythic colour picture of the III/JG2 black 6+I Fw190D with Ta152 tail Wnr. 600545...
Should have appear in a documentary about the Hitlerjugend on the Belgian Televison
Should have been published in a 3 volume work, covering Kriegsmarine, Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe and having at least one colour section
What about some clear and better pictures of Karoband Bf109s, Fw190A (I know, one exist) or D,
What about pictures of Fw190D from JG6 with the red/white/red bands (I concur with John's grail here)
...

[Broncazonk]

Originally Posted by PhilippeDM

What about that mythic colour picture of the III/JG2 black 6+I Fw190D with Ta152 tail Wnr. 600545?

I was wondering about that as well. Where are the photos and documentation of Fw-190 D9s with Ta-152 tails? What's the story there? Was there only one of them or something?

Bronc

[sirbob]

To Mysticpuma, re Ju 88G-7.

Thank you for trying, but those are both a mis-identified Ju 88G-6. So are all published photos captioned as Ju 88G-7 until a wonderfully clear image was found on ebay about a year ago.

I have 'cleaned up' the photo in photoshop.Attachment 13348 Note the large round air scoop and smaller radiator of a Jumo 213E.

Attatched thumbnail is a copy of the original ebay photo.

[edNorth]

So, is this new? No proven. Sorry. There were G-7 prototypes, and this has not been proven be production G-7, as it could be one of them prototypes or (first(s)) of pre-series converted from stock G-6. Only engines & props (and radar) AND one more detail (!) made the small difference from G-6 to G-7.

Too many loose ends. But I have pointed out this many times before:
mr. sirbob should write it correctly ("Ju 88 G-7" against "Ju 88G-7")

-Ed

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by Hans Mcilveen

Hi Nick,

There are some photographs of He 111 wrecks at Royan in Avions 132.

Hans

Sadly that issue is no longer available from Lela Presse!

[Nick Beale]

Originally Posted by edNorth

Only engines & props (and radar) AND one more detail (!) made the small difference from G-6 to G-7.

-Ed

Is it just a myth that the G-7 had the Ju 188 tail assembly (as stated many years ago by Gebhard Aders)?

[sirbob]

OK, ed, just to keep you happy I'll stop writing anything.

[edNorth]

Originally Posted by Nick Beale

Is it just a myth that the G-7 had the Ju 188 tail assembly (as stated many years ago by Gebhard Aders)?

They had G-1 tail (BTW same as Ju 188) but NOT the Ju 188 wings. Ju 88 G-1/6 could not be fitted with Ju 188 wings, as they were non-compatable" as stated in Ju 188 flight manual. As pointed out by Pater Achs the G-7 was planned have same Wing area: 54.7 m2 (587 ft2) as A-4 (ie. same as G-1/6) but Ju 188 had Wing area: 56 m² (603 ft²) (wiki)

!sirbob; do you disagree to absulute correct writing??