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Old 6th May 2020, 20:49
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Re: Photo Nieuport

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Currently on ebay is a photo of a Nieuport 11, N1135 belonging to Cne Jean de Sieyes de Veynes of Escadrille N26 who landed in German lines on 3 july 1916.
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This has been on sale before. Only difference is that De Veynes first name was quoted as Jacques. Checking 'The French Air Service war chronology' Bailey/Cony tend to agree. How certain is Jean??

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Old 6th May 2020, 21:56
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Re: Photo Nieuport

Hi,

Read Jean

From "Base de données des personnels naviguant ou au sol de l'aéronautique militaire au cours de la Grande Guerre"

https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/

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Old 7th May 2020, 01:26
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Re: Photo Nieuport

Thanks Bertrand

I can see the problem. There were two de Sieyes, one Jacques and one Jean. Both Captains as well.

Not a very good tracking site. When entering both names (de Sieyes de Veynes) the system does not acknowledge anything. Took a while to get it right.

From where does the knowledge about the second last name come from?
Also with such an unusual name, were the two persons related? I notice that basically nothing is known about the one named Jacques.

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Old 7th May 2020, 07:42
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Re: Photo Nieuport

Hi,

We have TWO

PLAN de SIEYES de VEYNES (de)

Jacques, last rank : lt-col , 21/07/1891-25/06/1949
Jean Louis, last rank :capitaine 23/08/1884- 1977

Jean-Louis, Vincent is "our" man and they are brothers

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Old 7th May 2020, 11:35
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Thanks Bertrand

That explains a lot of things

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Old 20th May 2020, 16:08
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Re: Photo Nieuport

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Nieuport 10 N.446 at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/Vue-aerienne...UAAOSwqwNew3J5


The site at : http://albindenis.free.fr/Site_escad...e_Nieuport.htm


mentions a photo of this aircraft, so I hope its not the same. Speaking of this very helpful site it has the notation N 31 - N 3, Would I be correct in assuming that the writer simply means the plane moved fron N31 to N3? An obvious question I suspect but best to be clear.


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Old 24th May 2020, 23:01
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Re: Photo Nieuport

Hello,


On 24.05.20 the following photos of Italian operated Nieuports can be seen at:


Nieuport 11 1450 and ?



https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...YAAOSwmFdeySNI


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...sAAOSwWVxeySKy


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...UAAOSwhBpeySE3


https://www.ebay.it/itm/FOTO-Fotogra...oAAOSwsw1eySOM



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Old 25th May 2020, 21:25
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Re: Photo Nieuport

Hello,


Currently on ebay is another Italian Nieuport, Nieuport 10 Ni.38? at:


https://www.ebay.it/itm/C3723-AVIAZI...AAAOSwmgJey8CY


Can anyone read the last number of the serial?


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Old 26th May 2020, 12:01
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Re: Photo Nieuport

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a nice photo of RFC Nieuport IV.G serial 282 at:


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/RPPC-AVIATIO...kAAOSwja5ezNAs


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Old 26th May 2020, 16:24
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Re: Photo Nieuport

Photo has been published Clint, but this seems to be a very good quality one.

Aircraft itself was bought in March 1913 and assigned to RAF at Farnborough, so I suppose there is a good chance this photo was actually taken there.

By August the same year it was finished...

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