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Old 19th April 2019, 19:08
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Hi Tony, ref the DB603 numbers in the pics.
The 2842 data plate looks 100% BUT, it could be transposed. You would have to look carefully at the original engine stamping points to be sure.
Both the stampings on the alloy casting are a little strange. They look slightly modern and fresh. The "AA" from the dataplate is strangely rewritten as A2.
Especially in the light of the 2826 stamp, I suggest that the only way to be certain about those numbers would be examination of the original id stamps, there are about 50 locations on each engine. However, that ain't going to happen! Cheers

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Old 19th April 2019, 20:51
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

I did not have room to post an image of the gearing on 2842 once the nose case was removed. At least two of the gears are hand etched 2842. I will look at other images I have to see what else I can extract.

And I have a close up of the dataplate and they are definitely the same stamped letter 'A'. In the letter 'A', the right vertical is nearly straight up while the left slants over to it.

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Old 19th April 2019, 21:35
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Thanks Tony. Yes, the data plate looks original but, I meant that it could have been from another engine. Although engines were rebuilt and parts could have been exchanged, the basic ID of an engine is the crankcase, the largest single component. I suspect that it is impossible for me to be certain without a partial examination of the engines, and that is not going to happen (I saw them there as a visitor about 9 years ago). I do think that it is possible that damaged/used/overhauled or, on-production bombing damaged/reclaimed or, post-war assembled from several engines are possibilities. I do not aim to cast doubts here, these are just observations. Cheers

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Old 20th April 2019, 00:43
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Hello,
From our old cases...
Emil uestionable - should be hispan, but the desired number of the plane was never found (It's was "Frankenstein").
I wonder what the factories produced these motors?
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Old 20th April 2019, 12:29
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Hello Kirche,

DB605 WNr.35475 was a standard A-1 produced by the Henschel-Flugmotorenbau GmbH, Kassel (producer code hsr)
DB601 A-1 WNr.63742 was produced by Daimler-Benz Motoren GmbH, Genshagen Kreis Teltow (producer code hsq)
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Old 20th April 2019, 20:17
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Tomislav, Thank you very much!
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Old 20th April 2019, 21:22
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Rasmussen and Tony, thank you for your very informative contributions!

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Old 21st April 2019, 16:26
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Really useful list, thank you for shearing!
In fact the upper mentioned picture of Bulgarian DB 605 is almost the single clue we have in our effort to identify the plane (thanks Denes). So any help is appreciated!

I confirm the conclusion, that Gyor made 109s were originally equipped with 00400xxx-series engines.

And I attach a little list of spare engines, delivered to Bulgaria.
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Old 22nd April 2019, 16:18
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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

Another DB605 in the NASM collection is 25898. No dataplate, but in the stamping on the block ( similar to the images I posted of the DB603s above ) is a 'B' then a space followed by an 'R7' and another space followed by '3456'. The white painted 25898 B is also on the side of the block.

The stamping looks like this 25898B R7 3456

There is no aircraft associated with the engine.

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Re: List of DB 605A engine construction numbers?

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Enclosed a list of DB engine numbers, which I have found.

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