Photo Morane Saulnier

[musec04]

Hi Stig,


I had indeed already looked and indeed the location of both photographs is the same place. No surprise there.You would expect both machines to be constructed at the same location and lined up for a photo session upon completion.



You reference the latest french expertise, so clearly you've read something post Soltan and Davilla that I haven't - would you care to reveal the work in question please.


The airframe we're looking at looks identical to that of the Type S MS.625, but the engines are different. Are they 300 hp Panhard?. I don't know. If indeed Panhard 300 hp were used on the Type X (and the tailplane is very suggestive that we are looking at a Type X)? Does anything else that used that engine spring to mind.?


Edit

Actually as far as the aircraft in the photo is concerned, the 300 hp Panahard must be a red herring . The aircraft in the photo is clearly powered by two seperate engines. Rather than one located in the fuselage. I don't know what type they are though. But clearly different from those used on the Type S .



Regards,


Clint

[Stig Jarlevik]

Clint

I pass the engine test....
The photos I have seen of the Type S, it seems to have the same engines as this one.

The book I refer to is Henri Lacaze and his Morane book published by Lela Presse

Cheers
Stig

[musec04]

Hi Stig,


I suppose I could be looking at the same engine and thinking I'm seeing two different engines. The radiators on MS.625 appear completely vertical whereas on the machine I've posted the radiators look diagonal. But I'm thinking that this might be due to the location of the photographer.


What is certain is that this machine does resemble the Type S and doesn't resemble the line drawing of the Type X in Lacaze (which I have read!) at all. Two uses of the designation type X,one built and the other remaining on paper? Not the only reuse of a type designation by Morane Saulnier. But if it is as Type X as indicated by the photo one is left wondering how it differs from a Type S.


Regards,


Clint



Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay are two photos of Morane Saulnier Machines as follows:


Morane Saulnier Type L MS.39


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/AVIATION-PHO...oAAOSwKepf7zXa


Morane Saulnier Type N MS.750


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133132874682


Has anyone any further information on the unit operating either of the machines?


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a photo of Morane Type L flown by Bernis and Jacottet of MS.12 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/en_GB/colle...179355111.html


Behind their machine is Albatros B.I B.233/13 of FFA 5 which they had brought down. Does anyone known the serial of the Morane Saulnier Type L shown. Is it perhaps MS.37 which flew with that unit?


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


'It's an MS.230, Jim, but not as we know it' Currently on delcampe is a photo of Morane Saulnier Type L serial MS.230 at:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...439421269.html


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on delcampe is a photo of a Morane Sualnier Type L at Rayak:


https://www.delcampe.net/fr/collecti...211103844.html


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a series of photos showing Morane Saulnier Type BB serial 5137 of 3 Squadron brought down by Max Immelmann at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/144172047048...0AAOSw0ulhJ1D4


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of Morane Saulnier Type N of 3 Squadron RFC at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/393668394073...4AAOSwQ0JhgQqr


A further,probably better known, view of this machine post crash can be seen at:


https://www.agefotostock.com/age/en/...1/MEV-11955145


Regards,


Clint

[musec04]

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a Russian operated Morane Saulnier Type L at:


https://www.ebay.com/itm/29463554747...sAAOSwPflhuQcY


Regards,


Clint