Werner Baumbach ship destroyer

[Jim P.]

Sorry Larry, (for the late post for one thing) that was not meant in any way as criticism by any means - I have all your books! My comment was meant as that there have not been (and probably will never be) many detailed histories or diaries of most LW units along the lines of the Prien team's work for fighter units or the few other detailed unit histories that have been published such as those done for KG 27 (Walt Waiss), LG 1 (Peter Taghon), JG 26 (Don Caldwell), etc. On the contrary, you and Doug have opened the door, so to speak, to begin to give us even a basic history/understanding of so many units about which we're likely to never to know anything else about except for the odd entry in the loss reports. I certainly thank you for that.

[knusel]

...most airwar enthusiasts are intrested in lists, compilations, records, and statistics which can easily be performed with the aerial kills of the fighter aces.
I think, the key to move the bomber and reconnaissance pilots into the focus is expressing their achievements in some kind of numerical value...

[Larry deZeng]

@ Jim P. -

Thanks, Jim. I fully agree with your comments. To provide the level of detail found in Prien, Waiss, Taghon and a few others, one needs lots and lots of money and time to do just one Geschwader. Few of the veterans are left and their Flugbücher, Soldbücher and other records either lost, thrown out by disinterested relatives or scattered to the four winds. And we all know that there are only fragments left in the archives. Together, this makes the task impossible or nearly impossible.

L.

[knusel]

Hmm.
Is it also impossible to determine the number of ships sunk by Baumbach?

Michael

[Nick Beale]

Larry and Co. - this self-publishing issue is a really interesting discussion in itself but a bit off-topic re Baumbach. If you're happy, I'll relocate the relevant parts to a new thread under "Books."

[Larry deZeng]

Nick -

See my PM to you.

L.

[knusel]

...I'm especially intrested in wether Werner Baumbach sunk more ships than US patrol bomber hero Arthur Elder (19).

Michael

[edNorth]

Lt. Johannes Geismann (A-4 / 141016 3Z+DH 1./KG 77)

https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Ju-88/KG...y-1942-01.html

[knusel]

Good morning Gentlemen,

has there ever been made a ranking of ship destroyer pilots by tonnage sunk ?
(Like that of the submarine commanders.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...oat_commanders

Michael

[knusel]

It is known much tonnage was sunk by Fw 200 Condors.
Has it ever been tried to create a breakdown of the victorious pilots ?