From Barbarossa to Odessa (Luftwaffe Strikes Pt 1)

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Juha

So Dénes, have You changed your opinion on Kassa bombing? I have seen your opinion in an old AI (in connection to a P.37 article) and some 5 years ago on some disc. boards. Yes or no is enough if you don’t now want to handle this “hot” question more deeply.

No, I have not. I still believe - without having hard proofs yet, of course - that the ominous bombing of Kassa (now known as Košice, Slovakia) on 26 June 1941 was performed by a trio of Soviet bombers, who released their payload on the Hungarian city of Kassa in error, thinking they were bombing Slovak territory. This version seems to be supported by the fact that an unexploded Soviet made 100 kg bomb was found in the city.

Originally Posted by Juha

Secondly, there is no info on the effect of the ingenious zveno-SPB attack on 26th June. I know the Soviet view and Your view on early Aug attacks because I have copies of the relevant AEs (nos 71, 73 and 84). So what were the results of the 26th July attack?.

All available information of this innovative attack formation is included in the book. Fact is, that the Rumanians (or Germans) did not realise back then what type of aircraft combination performed the attack. Therefore, all bombings were attributed to bombers.

Originally Posted by Juha

I’ll open a new thread on the question was the LW losses on 22th June 41 worst to date or not because it is a more general question.

Very good. I'll try to present the info I have, as well as my input on the effects.

Originally Posted by Juha

I wait eagerly the moment when I’ll have time to begin read your book.

Please keep us informed.

[Dénes Bernád]

Originally Posted by Jukka Juutinen

I got a sample page from Denes (thanks!) and it looks just what the doctor ordered. You suggest bigger font with more pages, I suggest small font with more pages! BTW, where did you buy it from?

Yes, you're right. As I mentioned earlier, thanks to the Editor all information could be crammed into the prescribed 96 pages. However, the 'price' was smaller fonts. I would have also preferred more page count (e.g., 144 pages, as Christer's books), or three volumes, instead of two, but that was impossible. Therefore, I am containt with the end result.

P.S. Jukka (and others), my offer for a signed copy, with 5,50 Euros surface postage to European Union countries, is still valid.

[Juha]

Denés
thanks a lot for your detailed answer!

Juha

[Juha]

Hello
time constraints limited my time to read Denés book, so I had to stop on page 17 but I must say that I’m truly impressed by the amount of info Denés et al had succeeded to cram into those pages. Truly impressive! And even I with over 50 years old eyes used easily to that small font .

Already the Glossary of Abbreviations was a joy. Even if I knew already the meaning of most Soviet abbreviations I had forgot many of the Russian words to which the abbreviations are based (my ability of read Russian being next to nil), for example the word behind the first B of BBA. So going through those abbreviations, which are given with the full term in original language (in Latin letters) and then translated to English, was pure delight. My only complain is that I would have liked a table comparing all those military ranks but I understand that space constraints have been severe.

There are lot of info on and the OoBs of the participants (LW, VVS, ARR, MKHL and SVZ) and lot of background info. And also small bits of gems, for example the info that Slovak AF used BiBoLi fuel. The book is really worth of its price!

I have one complain, the map on page 17 looked impressive but to me the distance segment of line is out of scale.

And one question, on page 16 stands “The message everyone was expecting, namely the start of the combat operations alongside Germany and Finland against ‘Soviet Russia’ the very next morning…” Now the participation of Finnish a/c to air war in 1941 did not begin until on 25 June. Claimed the message really that Romanians were to begin fight alongside Germany and Finland?

One other question, a bit OT, what was Romanian opinion on 75mm Vickers AA guns in Romanian service in summer 41? Finnish opinion was rather positive on the 3” version of the gun, which Finland had purchased in 30s and Finns thought that its predictor was very good.

So based on the first 17 pages I warmly recommended the book

Juha

[Dénes Bernád]

Thanks, Juha, for your kind words. We tried to do our best and cram the most interesting information in the space allowed us by the Publisher.

Originally Posted by Juha

I have one complain, the map on page 17 looked impressive but to me the distance segment of line is out of scale.

I never actually measured the scale. But you might be right, indeed.

Originally Posted by Juha

And one question, on page 16 stands “The message everyone was expecting, namely the start of the combat operations alongside Germany and Finland against ‘Soviet Russia’ the very next morning…” Now the participation of Finnish a/c to air war in 1941 did not begin until on 25 June. Claimed the message really that Romanians were to begin fight alongside Germany and Finland?

No, I was actually referring to the Rumanians' belief back then that, accoring to the original German plans, Finland would have joined 'the anti-Bolshevik crusade' alongside Germany and Rumania. Of course, now we know that it did not happen on 22 June 1941.

[Juha]

Thanks Denés
for the clarification. And thanks to You and to Your co-authors for the excellent book. I'm looking forward to next free time slot to continue my reading of my copy and of course I'm also waiting the next volume.

Juha

[Håkan]

Finally I’ve had time to read this excellent book.

The book covers the campaign for Bessarabia in June and July 1941 and is an important addition to C. Bergström’s books about the air war on the Eastern Front in that it covers the operations of some of the lesser known allies to the Germans in the form of the Rumanian, Hungarian and Slovak Air Forces in addition to the Luftwaffe and VVS. The campaign along the Black Sea coast wasn’t the “walk in the park” as the initial months of Barbarossa often is pictured as. The VVS had been forewarned of the invasion and had managed to disperse their aircraft and thus wasn’t as surprised as on other fronts. This also meant that they were able to strike back and offer a stronger resistance to the Axis’ very mixed types of aircraft. Both Rumania and Hungary operated a “rich” variety of aircraft types and which must have been the quartermasters’ nightmare. Rumania for instance used British, German, Polish and indigenous fighters in combat against the VVS! They also used French, German, Polish, British, Italian and indigenous bombers!
The book is in a day-to-day account, which gives it a lasting value as a reference book to go back to in the future.
The book is highly recommended and for anyone interested in either or both the air war on the Eastern Front and the minor air forces during the Second World War, it is a must!
I have only one objection to the book and it is that it doesn’t have any index, which is a pity since it has a rich wealth of names, which without an index is very difficult to search for. I hope that this will be added in Volume 2, which I eagerly await!

Best wishes/Håkan

[Dénes Bernád]

I have been informed that Vol. 2 had been sent to the printers.



According to the publisher's web ste, it's now scheduled for February:
http://www.ianallanpublishing.com/pr...6&cat=0&page=1

I hope those who enjoyed vol. 1 will be pleasantly surprised, as in my opinion vol. 2 should be better...

[Christian Schulz]

Excellent!

[Dénes Bernád]

Here is a short review posted recently on the prestigious web site, Stone & Stone:
http://sonic.net/~bstone/archives/080302.shtml

"Compared to books about RAF and USAAF operations—think about Bomber Command War Diaries and Fighter Command War Diaries and Air War Europa and the USAAF Combat Chronology—far less information has been published about day-to-day aerial ops on the Russian Front. Despite some efforts to more thoroughly document the daily air action (see, for example, Christer Bergstrom's new book, below), the same level of detail simply hasn't been available to historians. It comes as a pleasant surprise, then, to open this book by Bernad, Karlenko, and Roba, especially when it's touted as the first of a series.

The authors open with twelve pages that recap the events leading up to Operation Barbarossa, survey the opposing air forces, and provide OBs for the Luftwaffe, Soviets, Royal Rumanian Air Force, Hungarian Air Force, and Slovak expeditionary air units. These orders of battle (and the ensuing text) don't cover the entire front, just the southern flank of Barbarossa, essentially the frontage of German Army Group South.

Following that introductory material, the book begins day-by-day coverage of action in the air on that part of the front. This runs from 22 June through 31 July. Each daily entry averages a page or more in length, but considerably longer for the opening days of the campaign. The daily material proves in many ways comparable to the depth of coverage Chris Shores has provided in books like Fighters over the Desert and Malta: The Hurricane Years.
Here's an extract from one of the daily entries in From Barbarossa to Odessa:

<<At 0705, four Soviet aircraft bombed the railway station and barracks at Ramnicul-Sarat. An intruder, shot down by anti-aircraft fire, crashed near Vulturul, the crew escaping by parachute. Buzau airfield and railway station also suffered an attack by four bombers, dropping 22 large calibre bombs of which two did not explode, but only little damage was recorded, along with two wounded civilians. At 0735, bombs were dropped by four Soviet bombers near Bivolari, without result. At 0820, nine Soviet bombers attacked Jassy, their bombs falling on a field near Probota, without causing damage. At 0920, while returning from a patrol over the front line, a Schwarm from II./JG 77 met four DB-3s engaged probably in one of the many Soviet intrusions of the day over Rumania. All were reportedly shot down.
Contrary to the previous days, Axis aircraft did not target the airfield of 67 IAP this day. Alongside the bomber crews of 299 BBAP, pilots of 67 IAP strafed a large concentration of enemy vehicles at Oancea. Lt. Butsenko and Ml. Lt. Shlyachov each set on fire a fuel tanker. At 0740, nine SBs of 45 SBAP carried out a bombing attack on the river crossing over the Pruth, 3-4 km south of Tover. One of the SBs was shot down by enemy fighters near Chistelnita, all crewmembers being killed.
At 0750, pilots of 69 IAP on readiness, sitting strapped into their fighters, were alerted by forward ground observers of the PVO that an enemy bomber formation was approaching. They quickly took oft and attacked the bombers, not realising that they were SBs. As a result of 'friendly fire', one of the three SBs was shot down. The engine of Major Shestakov's fighter was also hit eleven times, thus the pilot had to make an emergency landing. Another Soviet bomber was also lost in error, most probably to pilots of 69 IAP. The SB of 317 RAP was shot down by MiG-3s during a reconnaissance flight.
At 0925, eight I-153s and three MiG-3s of 4 IAP flew to the Kuhnesti-Sculeni area, where they were attacked by four [Rumanian] Hurricanes. In the ensuing dogfight, Kpt. Tereshkin claimed to have shot down one Hurricane, but in turn one MiG-3, flown by St. Lt. Gridnev, was lost. No Rumanian fighter is recorded as being lost this day. Later in the day, pilots of 4 IAP attacked Bacau airfield, where they claimed two Blenheims destroyed by Lt. Nosov, Ml. Lt. Baydov and Ml. Lt. Avdeyev. No Rumanian Blenheim, or any other two-engine aircraft, is recorded as being destroyed on ground this day.
Six Ar-2s of 132 SBAP dive-bombed the river crossing near Sculeni. Enemy fighters identified as 'SET-15s' attempted to attack them, but their efforts were unsuccessful. However, one Soviet gunner was killed during combat. Later in the day, seven Ar-2s and 25 SBs of this regiment transferred to Tsebrikovo. At 1005, seven Ar-2s bombed the same river crossing for a second time. Over the target area, the bombers were surprised by a summer downpour. While leaving the storm clouds, the Soviet formation was suddenly attacked by six Bf 109s east of Jassy (lasi). They pursued the retreating Soviets over the border, eventually shooting down two Ar-2s. Only one pilot survived, the rest of the crew being killed.
In the morning, probably during a strafing attack, the Bf 109 E-4, W.Nr. 5365, flown by Fw. Rudolf Schmidt of 5./JG 77 was hit by Flak and had to make an emergency landing. The fighter was destroyed but, after a few hours, the future Ritterkreuztrager returned back unhurt. A few hours later, he is reported to have shot down two DB-3s.>>

The authors round out the book with ample photos and a few color aircraft profiles, but this is a solid, serious, text-heavy approach despite the glossy, oversized format. The volume lacks indication of sources for the material (despite footnotes, which mostly add more to the descriptions) and does not include a bibliography (although that's promised for the second volume).

Bernad and his colleagues have performed admirable work, and their detailed chronological account deserves wide recognition by everyone with an interest in the air war on the Russian Front."