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[Marc-André Haldimann]

Danke Jörn!

So what options do we have? W.Nr. xxx196 position on the rudder is consistent either for Erla or for WNF.

In my opinion, WNF is a cold case because I never came across a single WNF built Bf 109 G-14 or G-10 with a long tail wheel leg.

This leaves us with Erla produced Bf109 G-10's and rarer seen G-14's. Considering the oil filler cap high position, plainly visible on the inner side of the engine cowling won't help us out: if I understand things correctly, Erla did use the 56 liters oil tank on their AS engines planes as well (Jörn, please correct me if I'm wrong).

I won't argue now about the tiny part of the third digit to be seen as I'm still off computer. Options left now are:
- either Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. 464 196 (right W.Nr. position on the rudder and documented planes in that batch having a tall tail wheel leg).
- or an Erla Bf 109 G-10 in the 150xxx-152xxx or the 490xxx-491xxx batch.

Hopefully more arguments will show up;-))

Cheers
Marc

[Rasmussen]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

- either Bf 109 G-14/AS W.Nr. 464 196 (right W.Nr. position on the rudder and documented planes in that batch having a tall tail wheel leg).

Not an option --- the W.Nr.464196 wasn't an G-14/AS but an normal G-14, the position of the W.Nr. is wrong and the a/c had in all probability not an long tail wheel leg.

Regards
Rasmussen

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Ok Jörn,

So this is after all an Erla G-10; I'll tackle the third digit by Monday;-)).

Many thanks!
Marc

[D.B. Andrus]

Gun trough looks to be the style commonly used on the Erla G-10 refined cowling.

Cheers,

D.B.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Thanks D.B.,

As for the third digit issue, nothing really conclusive: it could be a "0"...

Anyway, I've now transferred this plane as an Erla built Bf 109 G-10. Steve, you were right;-)).

Thanks to all who helped to narrow down this particular machine!
Marc

[S Sheflin]

Thanks Marc,

But remember, in my case even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

Steve Sheflin

[ouidjat]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Hi folks,

Now we have this new Bf 109 G-14. Question: which were the units known to be stationed in Bayreuth-Bindlach in the Spring of 1945?

Thanks for your insights!
Marc

Hi Marc,

But you gave the answer in your post, didn't you?
NAGr. Bromberg ?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...in/photostream

Regards, Franck.

[Marc-André Haldimann]

Yes Franck, I guess many of the G-8's and G-6/R2's will do for that unit. My question was more G-10 orientated... OFC, there could have been also WNF built G-10/R2's in the 770 xxx batch, but our issue is this Erla built Bf 109 G-10:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57631646235608

and this Mtt built Bf 109 K-4 in the 330 xxx - 331 xxxx batch:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2809206...57631646235608

Any other JG or EJG known to operate from Bayreuth?

Cheers
Marc

[ouidjat]

Nothing found for the moment.
Three NAGr. were based in Bayreuth-Bindlach in 1944 but, according to Michael Holm site, they all left 12/1944...
Keep watching.

[Cpt_Farrel]

Originally Posted by Marc-André Haldimann

Thanks D.B.,

As for the third digit issue, nothing really conclusive: it could be a "0"...

Anyway, I've now transferred this plane as an Erla built Bf 109 G-10. Steve, you were right;-)).

Thanks to all who helped to narrow down this particular machine!
Marc

The placement of the W.Nr is correct for the 150-152xxx batch but not the 49xxxx range of Erla built G-10.s

/Anders