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Old 13th October 2010, 13:14
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

Hi Brian,

I will be interested in the list of crew and passengers of this Condor.

Still finding new (for me) cases.

30th May 1944

At 4:00, the german operation starts after a 20min artillery barrage and air strikes. I./KG4's He 111 bomb enemy artillery positions, claiming an enemy fighter during the mission. The first two german fighter claims around the end of the artillery preparation are a Sturmovik and a Airacobra.
During the first two hours, three times Stukas attack own troops, once even a first-aid station. Two of these friendly-fire incidents affect 23.PzDiv, which is operating on the right wing of the ground forces. Reportedly, this is caused by romanian Stukas, who themselves loose four planes in 93 sorties during the day.

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http://www.yogysoft.de/Bessarabia_5-2.htm

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Old 19th October 2010, 22:29
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Hello friends,

I have here some friendly fire attacks of german aircraft against german troops during the invasion of Greece. I have this data from Golla, Karl-Heinz: Der Fall Griechenlnds 1941, p. 134ff.

06.04.1941:
a) in the morning troops (mainly III./InfRgt 125) attacking the "Werk E" of the greece fortress-system Usita-Paljurjones are bombed by Stuka - there are "erhebliche Verluste".
b) in the morging, during attack of the 3./PiBtl 659 and III./GebJgRgt 85 on the "Werk Istibei-West", some Stukas missed the targets and dropped bombs against the positions of GebArtRgt 95 (5 dead, 3 wounded) and vehicles-column of FlaMGBtl 609 (8 vehicles are destroyed).
c) in the afternoon a Hs 126 bombed accidently the positions of GebJgRgt 85 (6 dead, 6 severly wounded).

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Old 4th November 2010, 18:59
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Re: Friendly fire WWII

Regarding the post of Darius, I'm not sure German Hs 126 were carrying bombs during their missions, but it may a misprint for Hs 123 (don't remember if some were used during the Greek campaign) or it could be a Greek Hs 126 (some were in service at the start of the Italian-Greek war in 1940, and so may have flown over the frontline this day.

A new case for me, reminding modern computers: when an intelligent weapon just proves dumb...

http://www.royalnavyresearcharchive....CORT/BITER.htm
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Old 4th November 2010, 20:00
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I don't recall if this was posted before, but it is friendly fire, sort of.

http://www.bombercommandmuseum.ca/s,canard.html
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Old 5th November 2010, 14:00
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Belated thanks guys for the latest.

Bill, what a story. It will certainly find its place in the appropriate volume.

Incidentally, Volume I (1939-40) should appear before Christmas - fingers crossed.

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Old 5th November 2010, 16:43
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Belated thanks guys for the latest.

Bill, what a story. It will certainly find its place in the appropriate volume.

Incidentally, Volume I (1939-40) should appear before Christmas - fingers crossed.

Cheers
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would you please tell me the name of your book? Thanks!
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Old 5th November 2010, 17:41
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Hi Mars

The series - probably five volumes, soft cover, each about 220 good-quality pages (but no photographs) - will be called:

BLUE-ON-BLUE: Aerial Friendly Fire in World War II & Associated Miscellaneous Incidents

Volume I covers Northern Europe 1939-1940: British, French, Polish, German and Neutrals

Probably £19.99 plus postage.

Initially available from me direct, although there will be a website when established by Tally Ho! Publishing

To follow:
Volume II: Northern and Eastern Europe 1941-1943 (incl USAAF)
Volume III: Northern and Eastern Europe 1944-1945 (ditto)
Volume IV: Middle East & Mediterranean 1940-1945
Volume V: Far East incl Indian Ocean and Pacific 1941-1945

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Old 5th November 2010, 17:52
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Thanks, Brian, that explains why I can not find this book on amazon, please let us know how to purchase it, it would be lot better if we can buy it via a web site.
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Old 27th January 2011, 20:14
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Hi Brian,

Is vol I available now ?

Found today a case for vol IV, that you may allready have: a Boston of 18 Sqn RAF on evening of 7 February 1944:

http://www.baseballinwartime.com/in_...ean_george.htm
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Hi guys

I have just joined your honourable guild of aviation experts. I am conducting research into friendly fire incidents for my new book. I am interested in all such incidents concerning misidentification in the air during WWII, and seek your help. My two-volume study covers all air forces, in all theatres of the war. Quite an undertaking, no doubt you will agree. My draft already contains hundreds of recorded incidents but I am sure there are more to be uncovered. Please help!
This is one for you...

http://rcaf403squadron.wordpress.com...eorge-borland/
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