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Good morning Michel,
thanks so much ! I conclude the breakdown of Saburo Sakai's 87 claims: Chinese-Japanese War: 2 confirmed+2 unconfirmed (?) WW2: -56,25 [54+19] destroyed -1 probable -2+1sh damaged -6 damaged on the ground Cheers, Michael |
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Now a more mundane question: Is a copy of Sakai's logbook in existence, and has anyone in the Western world seen or obtained it? That would be significant!
Russ |
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Otherwise, Henry Sakaida who has written a book about Sakai called WINGED SAMURAI might be able to ask you question. |
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Great debate. Does the japanese squadron record proceed further into 1942? later than August 2, 1942?
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Hello Felix,
I don't think so. Japanese claim records get very scarce in the latter half of the war. (The same is true for Japanese successes while they suffer more and more crippling defeats in the fights against the Americans.) But I would be glad to be proven wrong. Michael |
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Hi "guys"
168 claims are mentioned,often "fanciful" (to remain politically correct),in the Tainan Kokutai Kodochosho between 2/8/42 and 1/11/42 which gives another insight into the record of some "aces" (Ota,Nishizawa,Sasai,Okumura....) michel |
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Hello Michel,
this website indicates that Nishizawa scored 34+158 shared kills: http://www.aces.safarikovi.org/victories/japan-ww2.html Will it ever be possible to find out the decimals od the shared kills ? Michael |
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Nishizawa Hiroyoshi
4° Kokutai 14/3/42=6 P-40 collective (by four pilots) 14/3/42=2 P-40 prob.collective(by four pilots) 28/3/42=3 spits collective(by five pilots) Extracts from Tainan Kokutai Kodochosho 12/5/42=2 P-39 collective(by five pilots) 12/5/42=1 P-39 prob.collective(by five pilots) 13/5/42=2 P-39 collective(by five pilots) 13/5/42=1 B-26 prob.collective(by six pilots) 17/5/42=5 P-39 collective(by six pilots) 17/5/42=1 P-39 prob.collective(by six pilots) 09/6/42=4 B-26 collective(by 23 pilots) 25/6/42=1 P-39 collective(by three pilots) 25/7/42=1 B-17 collective(by nine pilots) 5/10/42=1 B-25 collective(by seven pilots) 8/10/42=2 dauntless collective(by 8 pilots) 13/10/42=1 wildcat collective(by two pilots) 13/10/42=1 wildcat prob.collective(by two pilots) 17/10/42=1 dauntless collective(by two pilots) michel |
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Good evening,
cool. Is it possible to find a Nishizawa victory list that is more complete than these ? https://www.lesasdelaluftwaffe.fr/au...shi-nishizawa/ http://www.cieldegloire.com/010_nishizawa_h.php Michael |
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Hi Michael
Attached list of "victories" of Nishizawa 4° KOKUTAI 14/3/42=6 P-40 coll. 24.3/42=1 Spit 28/3/42=3 Spit coll. TAINAN KOKUTAI 1/5/42=1 P-39 2/5/42=2 P-40 3/5/42=1 P-40 7/5/42=1 P-39+1 P-40 12/5/42=2 P-39 coll. 13/5/42=2 P-39 coll. 17/5/42=5 P-39 coll. 20/5/42=1 P-39 27/5/42=1 P-39 1/6/42=1 P-39 9/6/42=4 B-26 coll. 16/6/42=2 P-39 25/6/42=1 P-39 4/7/42= 1 P-39 11/7/42=1 P-39 25/7/42=1 P-39 25/7/42=1 B-17 coll. 7/8/42=6 F4F 5/10/42=1 B-25 coll. 8/10/42=1 SBD coll. 11/10/42=1 F4F 13/10/42=1 F4F coll. 17/10/42=1 F4F 17/10/42=1 SBD coll. 20/10/42=1 F4F KOKUTAI 251:in brackets,collectively assigned to the group(including Nishizawa) 14/5/43=1 P-38+1 P-40 7/6/43=1 P-39+1 F4U 12/6/43=1 F4U+1 F4F 16/6/43=1 P-39 7/7/43=(1 P-39+2 P-40+3 F4U) 9/7/43=2 P-39 11/7/73=(1 F4U+1 F4F+1 P-38+2 P-39) 13/7/43=(1 F4U+5 F4F) 15/7/43=(8 F4U+4 F4F+2 P-39+1 P-40) 16/7/43=4 F4U 25/7/43=(2 F4U+6F4F+5 P-39) 31/7/43=1 P-39+2 P-40 1/8/43=(3 F4F+5 P-40) 4/8/43=(8 F4U+7 F4F) 7/8/43=1 F4F+1 P-39 15/8/43=2 F4U 18/8/43=2 F4U 21/8/43=(7 F4U) KOKUTAI 253 24/9/43=(11 P-38) 1/10/43=(4F4U+2 P-39+3 P-40) 12/10/43=(1 P-38+1 B-24+3 B-25) 15/10/43=(3 P-38) 17/10/43=(4 P-38) 18/10/43=2 B-26 24/10/43=(12 P-38+3 B-25) KOKUTAI 201 25/10/44=2 F6F coll. After octob.42,the majority of his claims are "fanciful" and unverified on the US side Michel |
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