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Old 19th April 2012, 09:30
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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

I looked at the Microfiche and considered watching paint dry as a hobby instead of dealing with that, since it seemed more interesting than going through that!

If you delve into the early 1942 HW5 series you get paper copies of DEFE3...

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Just a short note. You can now download DEFE 3 for free, from NA website. Big files so you have to have a fairly quick connection:-)

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Hi Junker,

how? Are there files for 1940?

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Old 7th June 2012, 13:48
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hi,

maybe a stupid question, but what is DEFE 3? do you have a link to that file? i didn´t find it on the na-homepage...

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Help yourself.

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/d...e=1&mediaarray=*

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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

Is it just me?

Where is the G.D.'d DOWNLOAD button or tab once you select the file you want??

Maybe you have to be a Brit to download?

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Re: Using Ultra to research the Luftwaffe

I think the best I ever managed was 1,300 photos in a day, and with good planning going north of 1,000 is no problem. The problem is getting through the material once you are at home!

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Old 14th June 2012, 19:48
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I think the best I ever managed was 1,300 photos in a day, and with good planning going north of 1,000 is no problem. The problem is getting through the material once you are at home!

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hi,

by the way: are the defe3 files worth reading? i didn´t manage to download them, but a friend told me that there is only naval stuff in them, isn´t it?

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by the way: are the defe3 files worth reading? i didn´t manage to download them, but a friend told me that there is only naval stuff in them, isn´t it?

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(a) Yes.
(b) No.

If you look at the file descriptions the naval ones have contents with serial numbers starting ZTPG or similar. The ones with the Luftwaffe/Army signals start with two letters, e.g. VL, HP, BT and KO.
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by the way: are the defe3 files worth reading? i didn´t manage to download them, but a friend told me that there is only naval stuff in them, isn´t it?

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What Nick said.

Otherwise, my experience with them is restricted to Mediterranean Oct 41 - Feb 42. In this timeframe, I'd guesstimate probably more than half is navy, with another 40% air force, and the rest army.

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